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Scottish Referendum news thread

623058 posted:
YET, TV3 in ireland has no trouble, ITV just has to think would it be worth it?


TV3 in Ireland has a whole world of trouble, with the announcement that UTV Ireland is to start in the south. However, it does prove a point that STV in an independent Scotland can easily work with only minor changes to the current set up. UTV Ireland has been given an Irish licence and will basically broadcast the ITV schedule (with a few exceptions, X factor, Britains Got talent and Downton abbey)
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RTE News - Ireland

Cando posted:
chinamug posted:
Cando posted:
chinamug posted:
RTE and that had no results service on TV or Radio on Saturday Night, at a time when results were flooding in from all over the country. .


Not really. The by-elections were wrapped up for the 9 o clock news and the European seats couldn't be announced until Sunday (and the tallys/ exit polls for them had been dissected since 9am). Coverage was repetitive enough already. There really was no need for any show, all you would have had was the pundits repeat the same stuff across the day.
For the locals counting continued in most places but final results were minimal and always are.You would end up having to over analyse every single council for content and all of them outside Dublin showed the exact same thing. It wasn't until Sunday evening that the popular vote could even be decided.
Also the resources were tight, outside the big European count hubs there was very few correspondents at the actual counts as some had to follow 3 or 4 councils (Teresa Mannion, Cathy Halloran).


In fact that's not the case at all. Between 6 and 12 midnight on that night most of the councils up and down the country had results flooding in. .

AS I said previously final results were minimal on the Saturday night, which was why Newstalk was dominated by RTE commissioned exit polls for Europe and the by elections. Which had been covered relentlessly at that stage.IIRC Limerick was the only major council to have completed their count and that was at 4-5 am on Sunday morning.


Okay by that logic no Irish election should be covered until the day after counting so. Usually in a general election there are no final results until day two of counting. However, the first, second and third counts do matter to people around the country. That's why Local radio and websites were very active.
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RTE News - Ireland

Cando posted:
chinamug posted:
RTE and that had no results service on TV or Radio on Saturday Night, at a time when results were flooding in from all over the country. .


Not really. The by-elections were wrapped up for the 9 o clock news and the European seats couldn't be announced until Sunday (and the tallys/ exit polls for them had been dissected since 9am). Coverage was repetitive enough already. There really was no need for any show, all you would have had was the pundits repeat the same stuff across the day.
For the locals counting continued in most places but final results were minimal and always are.You would end up having to over analyse every single council for content and all of them outside Dublin showed the exact same thing. It wasn't until Sunday evening that the popular vote could even be decided.
Also the resources were tight, outside the big European count hubs there was very few correspondents at the actual counts as some had to follow 3 or 4 councils (Teresa Mannion, Cathy Halloran).


In fact that's not the case at all. Between 6 and 12 midnight on that night most of the councils up and down the country had results flooding in. I Followed the action online, on local radio stations and on Newstalk. What should have happened is a two hour show earlier in the day and then coverage from 4 till midnight or 1am. RTE News Now completely stopped covering News that night, as repeating bulletins would have been pointless. If there was one night you actual did need a news service that was it. Instead it was repeat after repeat of Nationwide and non current stories.
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RTE News - Ireland

rdd posted:

As for Irish TV, very few people actually in Ireland are aware they even exist despite some marketing recently, they appear to be quite firmly aimed at ex pats anyway.


You're right about that. It's normally seems to be a 24 hour version of RTE's Nationwide, but with an even far lighter touch. It does appear to have the financial backing to develop into something better but it's a very long way from that. It makes the Show on Saturday all the stranger. TV3 have given up on News at the weekend so the only place to go was RTE and that had no results service on TV or Radio on Saturday Night, at a time when results were flooding in from all over the country.

While IRISH TV's effort was poor (Sat link seemed to break up a lot) it was still an effort. I will say a lot of people in Cork and Kerry watch the Irish Music programmes. However, they call it channel 191 rather than it's actual name.
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RTE News - Ireland

What was interesting was IRISHTV on SKY channel 191 which got former TV3 Anchor Alan Cantwell to host a two hour live special from the west of Ireland on both Saturday and Sunday. The Saturday Show was very poor but Sunday's show was much better with decent interviews and real information.
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RTE News - Ireland

The coverage was okay as such but RTE News Now was pretty much a joke on Saturday Night. With real results coming in all evening there was no Radio or Television coverage, Because News was changing they stopped reshowing bulletins from earlier in the evening and instead showed reruns of Nationwide!!!! So when there was real News to report they decided not to report it!
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50 years of BBC Two

Bizarrely He also hosted a show about 2 ten years ago when he looked back on the History of RTE 2 as RTE changed the name back from Network 2.
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The Late Late Gay Byrne Irish Television Thread

rdd posted:


Not much more they can cut from their news operation, apart from maybe The 12:45. Wonder what this "strategy for 2014" entails.


They can probably shorten the news at 5;30 by 15 minutes. By right the BAI would step in and stop such an action, but the BAI didn't stop them from dropping News at the weekends. They have only one bulletin of about 2 minutes On Saturday and Sunday and the last time I looked No Weather Forecast at all. (obviously it's hard to know for certain as you miss the news if you blink!) If I didn't know better I'd think that they were winding down the station.

In the past few months they lost the rights to the Soaps (a huge blow) All ITV studio's programmes and the GAA matches.

A huge Problem is that they continue to broadcast in SD when Everyone else has moved to HD. Their Picture on Saorview is terrible. I get the impression that if they had been in HD they might have held onto the GAA rights.
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Radio Caroline Closes Sky Satellite Service

SatGold posted:


If the Sky radio guide is examined, there are many gaps where there used to be radio stations, so we are not alone in thinking that satellite radio is now old technology.


Sad to see the station go off satellite but that's a bit of a dig at satellite that's not deserved. What Caroline found was that it's not possible to build a listenership without a EPG listing, But EPG listing cost money. SKY have no real interest in Radio and couldn't care less if stations can't be tuned in on other channels. There were a lot more TV stations as well but the free Market weeds out the weak.

Satellite Radio was never the top digital choice in this part of the world but it's certainly not old tech. The bigger stations will continue to use it for years to come. It's the small stations on with few or no listeners that will go onto the web. The web wasn't able to really provide that service 15 years ago, it can now.
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RTE News - Ireland

I think that RTE Radio One listeners can be divided into two very broad groups.

About half the listenership will never go anywhere else. The dial is stuck on Radio One and it doesn't matter who leaves or stays they'd continue to listen. One exception it would have been Gay Byrne, but he retired. These people are generally over 45

The Second Group will go elsewhere but they're more likely to head to their local station especially outside of Dublin or indeed the BBC. Whatever BBC station that has broadcast on LW has always had a largish audience in the republic and one that isn't recorded by various agencies. BBC Radio 2 was very popular up to 1978 and since then it's been Radio 4...when it moved to LW...

You have to remember that RTE Radio One didn't come on air until 7.30am in the seventies so people up before then looked elsewhere for entertainment... So it was BBC Radio 2 or BBC Radio 4.

The second group will have tried Newstalk but it hasn't been to their liking. Pat Kenny will win over some of them but not as many as they think. It's unlikely that Pat will gain listeners from other stations. They could have already tuned in if they had wanted to.

You would also have to think about current Newstalk listeners at that time. They didn't want to listen to Pat so why would they start now? Newstalk has no loyal base like Radio 1 or BBC Radio 4 in the UK, Pat will be starting from Scratch!!!
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RTE News - Ireland

bkman1990 posted:
RTE have launched their new season for 2013/2014 online.

The newly appointed controller for RTE 1, George Dixon, has also confirmed in the brochure that the channel will go into HD in the New Year.


This is really, really important. I know loads of people who watched The Fall on BBC 2 instead of RTE 1 because it was available on HD.
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RTE News - Ireland

bkman1990 posted:


There is a story in today's Irish Daily Mirror front page that he is to get an extra 100,000 viewers for his new radio programme. Is that justified to be enough or would there be more than that? I believe that this is a big win for Newstalk because his presentation style is largely better on radio. He would surely get more listeners on it because of he has a more stronger presence on radio than television.


If he gets an extra 100,000 listeners it'll be proclaimed as a huge success. However, that may be tough. Radio 1 listeners are slow to move from that position on the dial. Most presenters used to take 3 month holidays in the summer and listenership figures didn't change.

It's also the station itself which is a very different beast from Radio 1.

Plus a lot of people will find it hard to find it on the dial even in this day and age.

I reckon Pat will do two or three years at Newstalk, the figures won't be great and then he'll retire from day to day broadcasting using age and family as the excuse.