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Sky News presentation - New studio onwards

(October 2016)

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IrelandIsle
I don't like the 2005 either for the same reason, but the 2016 is the opposite extreme. They had it about right with 2010, a good presenting line-up, decent graphics and a good blend of both worlds.

It comes across unprofessional however how Kay keeps saying how great it is, people say you want a serious news program delivering you the facts but Kay keeps speaking about the studio every 5 minutes.
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Mouseboy33


Obviously it looks dated, its years old, but at the time, Sky news seemed to be proud and daring, now it just seems a bit dim and flat. I don't think there has ever been bling, style yes, and this box don't have it. That is what made me watch Sky news.

We can agree to disagree, those that like the box can carry on watching, those that don't, like me, will bugger off elsewhere. I just think its a shame how Sky have decided to take the channel down this road. Im sure Sky will still be good at breaking news. I will come back for that.

Maybe it will pay off, maybe I am old fashioned and not with the times.

Well said picard.
Last edited by Mouseboy33 on 24 October 2016 6:09pm
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TV Dan
I wonder if they'll try positioning a presenter to sit in front of the big screen, that could look smart with the right visuals and no off shoot.

It's a shame they didn't just fill 3 walls of the box with a set, leave one glass wall for people to see in but not for the benefit of viewers seeing out.

Also, have they not got any better footage of Obama & Cameron? They keep replaying the same clip which was clearly filmed on a very wonky tripod.
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Newshack16
So I've had time to watch more of it and maybe some of the criticism was over the top, but I still don't like it.

Firstly the sound is terrible, how that was not caught in tests I will never know. It sounds horrible and I hope they can do something to fix it by changing the studio. If it cannot be fixed because of the fact it is an open space that is enclosed with lots of hard surfaces, then whoever designed the set should be asking themselves serious questions if they spent so much money to build a set and it only occured to them on launch day that they might have this problem.

Secondly there is FAR TOO MUCH GOING ON behind the presenter. People moan about swishes and over the top graphics, and Sky of course have been guilty of that, but the distractions behind the presenter with people walking are the single most annoying thing I have seen in the last while on Sky News. This just wasn't possible in every other studio they had The argument was previously that nothing should distract from th news, well this is and far worse than any voice over that lasts a few seconds or TOTH, it's constant.

Thirdly it is too empty there and nothing will change my mind about Sky having lost it's identity. There are two coloiurs that Sky News are associated with. Blue dating back 25 years and red for most of that time period too. In this new set they have effectively totally abandoned blue and Red is basically gone if you ignore the straps and the logo. As someone who has done courses in marketing and brand management this is one of the golden rules for successful brands. When you are refreshing things you keep your identity.

Do you see Easyjet saying that orange and white are bad so we'll change to green and yellow? Do you see Samsung saying that they are going to change to red and black? Do you see BBC deciding they will change their colours to blue and white? Do you see CNN deciding Orange is not good anymore so we will go for gold and white? Do you see NBC deciding that the colours of their logo are stupid and changing all of them?

As for coverage of breaking news. Sophy Ridge, a person who is at best a poor standard presenter has her own prime time programme on a Friday, and also a slot on Saturday and Sunday, because 11 people have left or been let go. Her delivery as a presenter is very robotic and cold, she comes across as completely uncaring and forced delivery in last weeks breaking news. Before her we had two of the cover presengers, one of which could barely string a line together without hesitating. This was at 5pm, a time where JT and Andrew Wilson used tocover.

And before anyone says that it wasn't helped by studio testing, of course it wasn't. but the simple fact is that the relief presenters they have are generally not up to the job as was proven last Friday and over the course of the year they are going to have to use them a lot because there are going to be times when they are four or five presenters down, whether that is through illness, being posted abroad, maternity leave, holiday etc, so these people will have to be used.

So far we've seen the following leave
Andrew Wilson
Lorna Dunkley
Samantha Simmonds
Paula Middlehurst
Martin Stanford
Jannat Jalil
Mark Longhurst
Dharshini David
Jeremy Thompson
Eammonn Holmes
Sam Washington
Hannah Tallett

Now I've said it before, that they were top heavy in the presenter area and they were. But now we have gone to having the likes of Sophy Ridge, who is an excellent political hack, getting her own hours, and apart from Gamal, the relief presenters of Sam, Tom and Claudia who for me simply don't cut it. For me they are a couple of presenters short. Any two of the above still being at the channel would make it a lot better and the fact is they are going to have to work a few shifts most weeks unless Sky simply bans holidays for it's staff or makes people work double shifts on a regular basis.

As for the comments that the journalism is good still, well I agree it is still good, but even that has took a hit with the number of bureaus being cut and the number of reporters that have also been let go. I've noticed that reporters have been much slower to get to stories in the last couple of months, compared to previously, but again hardly surprising when a number have left their roles and the remaining ones have to cover much greater territory. But at least the foreign corrospondents haven't been cut, a big exit there, really would be serious

As for the comment about Sky coverage in businesses, this is from my own experience in Ireland, it might not be the same in the UK but here Sky News is shown a lot in receptions, offices, on screens etc, because Sky News covers Irish stories as well as British when the BBC don't. However with the drop in business content lately and the general lack of an Irish feed for those who stream or get the channel digitally rather than through TV, they just switch to BBC since they only have the choice of Sky News International now compared to the Sky News Ireland feed in the past. like the TV. I don't have any staistics, it's just an observation.


I've read this forum for a while and will make a response to this my first foray in...deep breath.

I've seen you voice your opinion on the heavyweights leaving and those newer faces arriving in a few threads today and while it is, of course, your opinion on who you like/don't like, feel people can be harsh judging on a small amount of output they've seen compared to the number of hours these people have worked in journalism.

There's no doubt Sky have lost a lot of experience since the turn of the year and I agree this could have maybe been less drastic. But as a working journalist (not at Sky I must disclose) I have worked with both Claudia and Tom. I can't speak for Sam but to blanket state these people don't "deserve" air time other than that in the overnight slot I feel is unfair. Claudia has covered regularly over the summer for Gillian on Sunrise, the channel's flagship programme, after starting on the through-the-night slot. Tom has anchored, by himself for 6 hours, on the same overnight slot on some of the biggest stories of the year (Nice terrorist attack, Turkish coup among others) and been a presence on the weekend daytimes all summer. I agree the cull of some bigger names has been surprising, but the senior staff and management - I imagine - have watched what these new faces have been doing and trust their journalism and skill enough to put them in higher pressure situations. How do you expect people to become Mark Longhurst's, Andrew Wilson's and Lorna Dunkley's without being put in those situations? You reference repeatedly one Friday of breaking news, which I watched as well, and while acknowledging Sam was not the smoothest, can't point to anything the others did wrong or poorly. It was a breaking story, constantly updated where the BBC and others were not, and they provided all the information about the situation at City airport no more than seconds/minutes after it was confirmed. And it turned out not to be a huge news story anyway....

New studios have nothing to do with the quality of the journalism in the building. Agree the number of presenters leaving has been extreme, but there are a lot of the big guns left and I, for one, will enjoy watching a few new faces walk the tightrope!!
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Ratflump
The quality of journalism will always be the reason I do or don't watch a channel. At the moment it's still good, especially foreign & political coverage.

We're only a few hours into this new look, and undoubtedly there will be many tweaks. I agree with the comments on the echo and some of the shots, and yes the background has looked a tad drab on some shots. I think the background lighting will improve a lot over time too (maybe the column lights will turn blue/red Wink )

Fully agree with the Millbank white background comments. It really does look dire. Again though- we're in hour 7 of thousands to come. It will only improve.
Last edited by Ratflump on 24 October 2016 6:13pm
orange and London Lite gave kudos
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A former member
The news is the foces not a happy blue wall?
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fusionlad Founding member


We can agree to disagree, those that like the box can carry on watching, those that don't, like me, will bugger off elsewhere.


Best news I've read all day 🌝
Ratflump, rob and London Lite gave kudos
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Mouseboy33
Most on this PRESENTATION forum, i think agree the journalism isnt the issue. Since we are discussing the PRESENTATION maybe we should stay in that lane. Because the quality of journalism can be on another thread really. But it seems that on this forum the cube gets a mild thumbs down or at least sideways and a few positives. But if a channel spent so much money and time planning and prepping I dont think SkyNews should get any kudos for making future updates and changes to the background. Not well thought out in my opinion.
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Worzel
How can you replace this with a box???? (11 years ago today)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4VjFgVIBaI

Will never like it, think I'm off to the BBC.

I hate the box!


I absolutely loved that era of Sky News, purely because it was so different in terms of presentation to anything that had really come before on the channel. I do think it was ahead of its time though. It looks pretty fresh, even today.

I seem to recall someone on here saying that Sky News operated at a loss to be able to facilitate that sort of presentation.

They ditched the wandering around the set, thing is that wasn't the reason people stopped watching the channel - it was (at the time) the pretty dire appointment to view programming like James Rubin etc which led to that.

I suppose the BBC News channel *could* have ended up looking like the new Sky News box if their studio had been placed where the NBH reception is, rather than on the pit-floor below it. They benefit from the open-plan newsroom behind them, not a series staircases, floors and balcony corners in shot.
Last edited by Worzel on 24 October 2016 6:24pm - 4 times in total
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London Lite Founding member
Some positives. Double headed presentation from 6-10am, then 11-3pm, while the NC are axing the final double headed shift from April.

At least they've gone for something different, even if it's influenced by the NC a little bit.

The journalism is exactly the same as it was last week. They still would have had Jonathan Samuels reporting from Calais regardless.

Will a general Sky News viewer who dips into the channel for news notice? Possibly, will they care? No.
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picard


We can agree to disagree, those that like the box can carry on watching, those that don't, like me, will bugger off elsewhere.


Best news I've read all day 🌝


Not really, if a significant number of viewers jump ship.
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Aaron_2015


We can agree to disagree, those that like the box can carry on watching, those that don't, like me, will bugger off elsewhere.


Best news I've read all day 🌝


Not really, if a significant number of viewers jump ship.


Do you seriously think casual viewers really care about what's behind the presenters reading the news?

I guarantee you will be in the very, very, small minority that turn off because of the new studio.

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