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all new Phil Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Jon posted:
What I don’t get about X Factor is why they keep using Osbourne. Ratings shot up after she left and they’d never won ratings battle with Strictly since she came back. In fact I’m pretty sure they’ve never won the ratings battle when she’s been on the panel.

At the same time, the times when X Factor was on top and growing its audience year on year, the one constant was Dannii Minogue. Yet she barely gets a mention by the show and isn’t worshipped like Cheryl seems to be.

I just wish they’d do a series with zero manipulation. Put through all the talented entrants and let them battle it out. Some of the tricks they pull to steer the vote the way they want it to go are unbelievable.
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toby lerone 2016 UTV Newsline
Another thing that has annoyed me in recent years surrounding the X Factor is the fact it's always people from ITV or X Factor especially Simon Cowell who bang on about ratings. He said the year he rejoined the panel that the X Factor would overtake Strictly whenever they got Peter Andre on the show, Louis Walsh did the same the year after he rejoined, Dermot O'Leary was on Buzzcocks with Arlene Phillips banging on about ratings and the truth is people wouldn't make this X Factor v Strictly comparison if it wasn't for them. Simon Cowell needs to accept bar 2008-2010 when the X Factor was enormous Strictly has always been the bigger show ratings wise.

Larry the Loafer posted:
For me, it's the positivity from Strictly. It doesn't try to pretend to be something that it isn't whereas it's not much of a secret anymore about how pre-planned and manipulated TXF and BGT are, and even the worst contestants are still encouraged on Strictly rather than have Cowell and Co pointing and laughing. I'm a little old fashioned in that I believe fame should be earned rather than given, and TXF does nothing but feed that and further b***ardise the music industry.

TL;DR I don't like The X Factor.


Agree with this 100%, I may be wrong but I don't remember Strictly ever using sob stories like they do on X Factor. A big case in point when Robbie Savage was on the show when his good friend Gary Speed died and it wasn't mentioned at all on the show to gain votes.
Last edited by toby lerone 2016 on 24 September 2017 7:24pm
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all new Phil Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
To be fair there are far less sob stories on X Factor than people claim.
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Lou Scannon West Country (East) Points West
all new Phil posted:
To be fair there are far less sob stories on X Factor than people claim.


The fact that there are any at all (even if it's just one per series) is too many!
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all new Phil Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Why?
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Larry the Loafer Granada North West Today
Because it gives singers who use them an unfair advantage in the competition.
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toby lerone 2016 UTV Newsline
all new Phil posted:
To be fair there are far less sob stories on X Factor than people claim.


Agree with that, watched X Factor a few weeks ago for the first time in a while and refreshingly they didn't have any sob stories whereas a few years ago especially in their prime they nearly had one every week and had a participant in the live shows whose name escapes me talking about his dead nan every week.
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Lou Scannon West Country (East) Points West
toby lerone 2016 posted:
a participant in the live shows whose name escapes me


Laughing Says it all, really.

In the case of The Voice, you could replace the word "participant" with the word "winner" (and "me" with "everyone" )! Wink
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VMPhil Granada North West Today
Larry the Loafer posted:
Because it gives singers who use them an unfair advantage in the competition.

Yes because everyone knows Gareth Gates won Pop Idol due to winning the public's hearts with his stutter.
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toby lerone 2016 UTV Newsline
VMPhil posted:
Larry the Loafer posted:
Because it gives singers who use them an unfair advantage in the competition.

Yes because everyone knows Gareth Gates won Pop Idol due to winning the public's hearts with his stutter.


Gareth Gates didn't win it, Will Young did. Wink
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all new Phil Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
toby lerone 2016 posted:
VMPhil posted:
Larry the Loafer posted:
Because it gives singers who use them an unfair advantage in the competition.

Yes because everyone knows Gareth Gates won Pop Idol due to winning the public's hearts with his stutter.


Gareth Gates didn't win it, Will Young did. Wink

Whoosh.
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Larry the Loafer Granada North West Today
A speech impediment isn't really "I'm singing for my mum because she got hit by a truck after she went missing after Dad died because he lost his job when he succumbed to depression after my brother got an incurable disease and fell off a bridge and I didn't get into my top choice of university" while a Take That instrumental plays over it.

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