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noggin Founding member
So in her introduction speech, Cheryl uses a word (process) which is pronounced differently in British English than it is in American English, and opts to use the British version. Surely she's not too thick to learn a list of words that are pronounced differently and adapt to her audience.


Don't see the need. Simon doesn't massively tailor his language for a US audience - he still pronounces most words in an English manner. Why should Cheryl - or Steve Jones for that matter - be any different.

If they're sensible they'll chose words that aren't different in both variations of English though.

I don't think Cat Deeley has massively changed her delivery when presenting in the US has she? Though she does have a very clear and pretty generic accent, with only a slight Midlands overtone.

I think you shouldn't underestimate the US audience. There is quite a variety of accent and dialect across the US - and some East Coast stuff is pretty close to UK English. Certainly the word "process" will vary in how it is said across the US - with some East Coast-ers saying it the same way as a Brit would.
BA
Badger264
If we can understand even the strongest of American accents then I'm sure they'll have no problem understanding Cheryl. There might be the odd word but on the whole she'll be fine and in the filmings of her audience members have done, they react to what shes saying quite well. The accent thing is just a myth perpetrated by those who want her to fail in the US.
WH
Whataday Founding member
So in her introduction speech, Cheryl uses a word (process) which is pronounced differently in British English than it is in American English, and opts to use the British version. Surely she's not too thick to learn a list of words that are pronounced differently and adapt to her audience.


Don't see the need. Simon doesn't massively tailor his language for a US audience - he still pronounces most words in an English manner. Why should Cheryl - or Steve Jones for that matter - be any different.

If they're sensible they'll chose words that aren't different in both variations of English though.

I don't think Cat Deeley has massively changed her delivery when presenting in the US has she? Though she does have a very clear and pretty generic accent, with only a slight Midlands overtone.

I think you shouldn't underestimate the US audience. There is quite a variety of accent and dialect across the US - and some East Coast stuff is pretty close to UK English. Certainly the word "process" will vary in how it is said across the US - with some East Coast-ers saying it the same way as a Brit would.



It would have been sensible to have used a word that wasn't differently pronounced considering the debate about whether people would understand her or not. And Simon does pronounce things in American English when on American TV.
BA
Badger264
Very interesting developments stateside and something none of us could have predicted! Cheryl has been dropped as a US judge and replaced with Nicole Scherzinger. Despite her being unveiled as a presenter I still would have expected Nicole to judge the UK programme. In that case, it looks like Cheryl will probably be on her way back to the UK and our show has suddenly been given a massive reprieve. A Louis/Kelly/Cheryl/Gary panel is almost a certainty, and quite a credible one too! I do feel quite bad for Cheryl though, too many people wanted her to fail and it seems to have gone that way, but with Simon gone off our panel hopefully she'll be back to how she was in 2008.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/25/x-factor-judge-cheryl-cole-replacement-replaced-by-pussycat-doll-nicole-scherzinger-simon-cowell-paula-abdul-la-reid-judge-panel-host/
Last edited by Badger264 on 26 May 2011 12:06am
CH
Chie
New advert with just Simon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khya8qQ9IZA

I am starting to believe this could work.
PT
Put The Telly On
Very interesting developments stateside and something none of us could have predicted! Cheryl has been dropped as a US judge and replaced with Nicole Scherzinger. Despite her being unveiled as a presenter I still would have expected Nicole to judge the UK programme. In that case, it looks like Cheryl will probably be on her way back to the UK and our show has suddenly been given a massive reprieve. A Louis/Kelly/Cheryl/Gary panel is almost a certainty, and quite a credible one too!

http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/25/x-factor-judge-cheryl-cole-replacement-replaced-by-pussycat-doll-nicole-scherzinger-simon-cowell-paula-abdul-la-reid-judge-panel-host/


Simon will be back on our panel. I don't know, this has whiffs of one of Cowell's publicity stunts now.
JO
Jon
Well I've been saying Cheryl and Simon will be on the UK show all along.
Very interesting developments stateside and something none of us could have predicted!

Couldn't we? Because everyone was 100% sure Cheryl was going to flourish in the States.

Anyway it may just be misreported yet, she might be off ill or something and Nicole has been drafted to help at one of the auditions.
BA
Badger264
Very interesting developments stateside and something none of us could have predicted! Cheryl has been dropped as a US judge and replaced with Nicole Scherzinger. Despite her being unveiled as a presenter I still would have expected Nicole to judge the UK programme. In that case, it looks like Cheryl will probably be on her way back to the UK and our show has suddenly been given a massive reprieve. A Louis/Kelly/Cheryl/Gary panel is almost a certainty, and quite a credible one too!

http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/25/x-factor-judge-cheryl-cole-replacement-replaced-by-pussycat-doll-nicole-scherzinger-simon-cowell-paula-abdul-la-reid-judge-panel-host/


Simon will be back on our panel. I don't know, this has whiffs of one of Cowell's publicity stunts now.


Slightly contradicting my earlier post, the way I can see it going is similar to BGT- Louis, Cheryl and Gary will be the main judges with the categories realigned into three groups with Simon appearing as a fourth judge for the occasional live show. ITV did say he won't be a weekly judge, and they also pulled the story about Cheryl quitting the UK programme and have said the line up will be announced soon.

I'm interested to see how this is going to pan out on both US and UK screens. It obviously is a publicity stunt, but I wonder if it was planned all along- including forcing Dannii to quit- in order for Cheryl to come back and 'save the day'? Will be interesting to see if the US include her as a Brian Friedman type- "the panel isn't working" or if they're a bit kinder and make it appear like she just dropped by to judge a few auditions (Kelly Brook).

Well I've been saying Cheryl and Simon will be on the UK show all along.
Very interesting developments stateside and something none of us could have predicted!

Couldn't we? Because everyone was 100% sure Cheryl was going to flourish in the States.

Anyway it may just be misreported yet, she might be off ill or something and Nicole has been drafted to help at one of the auditions.


Simon seemed intent on having Cheryl as a judge so whether she was going to flourish is a different issue altogether.
JO
Jon
But if it didn't work she was always going to be replaced, although none of us thought it would be this soon.

Who knows if this was planned all along anyway? Although I don't think it was.

I don't mean to sound too harsh as I do feel sorry for her. I just never saw her succeeding over there.
PT
Put The Telly On
Cowell's not stupid, he would have known Cheryl wouldn't be best choice for the US version so something's been planned to happen somewhere.

He can afford to work on the basis of any publicity is good publicity.
CH
Chie
I think they will try to spin it as Cheryl went off to America carrying her worldly belongings in a handkerchief tied to the end of a stick and when she got there she was basically ignored by everyone. Having realised there's no place like home, there's no place like home, she clicked her heels and came back the UK where her adoring fans will now have a greater appreciation for her than ever before. Or something like that anyway. The End.
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A former member
I think this story aload of crap ,there only one source

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