X Factor 2012

Very strange scheduling by ITV between X Factor and Xtra Factor. The movie on ITV2 finished at the same time as X Factor so they could have gone straight into Xtra Factor as normal, but they've pushed it back 15 minutes and stuck in Bonkers World Records. Don't see the point myself.

Yep, my bad . Apologies for that.



Probably so that people might stick around for Red or Black. But with Celebrity Big Brother scheduled for 9.10pm, it could have been a bit of an own goal in terms of people who'd be likely to watch Xtra Factor (if anyone still watches that programme).

I guess they're trying to help Red or Black - though surely if that's the case hold Xtra Factor back to 10pm.

Not a bad opener - thank god we didn't get Mel B permanently, and Nicole fits in just fine as she did when she guested here a couple of years ago. A couple of stand out auditions - though didn't like how they started out with a rejected act, though it was one that raised a smile.

It's The X Factor though - the lovers will love it, the haters will hate it and whatever happens with the ratings tomorrow it'll be the highest rating show on TV at the moment.

I think this is an absolutely appalling piece of television and really shows up the dirty little tactics the Cowell shows use to make fools of people.



At the end of the audition, the edit implies that she's saying the judges told her to sing a song of Pinks, although I suspect the comment was directed at the judges as representatives of the programme. But in reality she's talking about the producers. But the edit doesn't allow her to explain that.

She later decides to to storm off stage and chuck a few things over, which I can't condone.

I generally beleive the show told her to sing Pink initially and probably told her she was great, so they really set her up for fall and I feel she has been coerced into behaving out of character in a way that will effect her life adversely. I really don't think it's right, I think this audition should have been scrapped personally as I think there are possible mental health issues at play here.

And here's a Daily Mail article that more of less toes Cowell party line. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2190500/X-Factor-2012-Zoe-Alexanders-violent-foul-mouthed-rant-shes-rejected-show.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Well that's the whole show cancelled then.

I see what you're saying though and agree entirely. It's like when the judges criticise, and it's edited and said again but in a different context.

Contestants turn up with 5 songs and a backing track. Pink will have most likely been one of those songs, and if she had any self awareness she would have known exactly how it was going to come across and you can see the penny dropping when the judges are speaking to her. But she got a second song and it was terrible, she had the chance to be 'Zoe', just as she wanted, and she blew it. The judges were fair and constructive towards her, and for her to react the way she did was inappropriate just because it didn't go her way.

You can put the blame at the producers door but I have no sympathy for her purely because she said herself she is professionally known as "Zoe Alexandra as Pink and she wants to drop the Pink" (her words). You don't do that by agreeing to sing a Pink song. She wasn't forced to do it, and if the producers did suggest she did it she stood up to the producers like she attempted to do with the judges.

They do exploit the occasional mentally unstable person but I don't think this is one of these instances. This is simply a spoilt girl who is used to getting her own way.

So are you going to stop watching The X Factor and reading the Daily Mail then? I never understand why people are shocked when The X Factor and the Daily Mail do what they do and have always done.

I saw this audition and I think you are probably right, she will be known as that nutter from The X Factor for a little while. Who knows if she planned to do that all along though? She knew what it takes to get on to the programme, maybe she weighed up the pros and cons and decided to risk her career and do it anyway. She may now be able to use her new fame for her own benefit and you might even be reading an interview with her in The Daily Mail by this time next week.

Don't feel sorry for her though, she is ruining Saturday night television as much as Cowell is. If it wasn't for her and people like her, Cowell wouldn't have a show.

I was watching the programme as I was in a room with other people watching it, as a rule I don't watch it anymore.

And I quickly Googled the terms 'Pink' and 'X Factor' to see if there were any media reports on this.

That's very true, it may all have been planned from her point of view, but I think even if in this instance that is the case, I think it's fairly obvious the show don't care either way.

Yes it's funny how much of a difference that made - I think I stopped watching it the year they went to the BGT-style auditions.

Interestingly I just read that the finals will be held in Manchester this year - at the building formerly known as the G-Mex.

Yep Manchester Central! Which surprised me as I thought they would use The Manchester Arena.

Where has this "5 songs" bull come from? Contestants absolutely do NOT turn up with 5 songs and backing tracks. What a ludicrous suggestion. The acts source their own backing tracks now? Nonsense.

Ignoring the major disparity in the quality of the backing tracks (ie the rubbish acts get cheap bought-in backing tracks whereas the better singers get beautifully produced orchestral affairs) are you genuinely suggesting that 1. The production company makes 5 expensive backing tracks on a whim and 2. The production company genuinely doesn't know what song the auditionee is about to sing when they step out onto stage?

This girl was absolutely told to sing Pink. Not just any Pink song either, but the one that goes "I'm gonna start a fight, I'm gonna get in trouble, I'm gonna start a fight!!". This could not have been any more scripted if they'd tried.

I went to one of last years auditions and the judges have a list of 5 songs that the contestant has prepared. The contestants say which song they want to sing, and the judges agree/disagree to that, if they disagree they suggest another one off their list.

I'm not sure about the backing track thing, I can't say its something I've ever given thought to and don't particularly care, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that the contestants provide their own (but it might have been on BGT, where its evident from some of them). If she didn't want to sing a Pink song she didn't have to. I think she was set up by the producers but was too dim or blinded to see it, and the reaction they got was completely unexpected and just coincidental with the song.