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ohwhatanight Founding member
Andrew posted:


Overall I prefer the ITV graphics as they are slightly larger and clearer to read. I have watched some matches in a few pubs and the ITV graphics seemed clearer than the BBC's.

The only thing I don't like about the ITV graphics is the word SPORT next to ITV - it really annoys me!!!! All we need to know is whether it's BBC or ITV - we already know we are watching sport.
Maybe the word SPORT should reveal once the match has finished - similar to the BBC.
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harshy Founding member
Time Warp posted:
p_c_u_k posted:
Part of the reason the scoreboard is so small appears to be to allow the red button options to be shown beside it on digital.

As for the scoreflashes - they are sponsored so that will be the major reason. But also not every country will have the time and score at the top left - the presentation standards of different countries are very different - so it's quite handy for the others.


Also, with the astons, viewers can see goalscorers, if they have just tuned in.

Some people on here are complaining about the size of the scorebar from a presentational point of view, but, from a football fan's view, the smaller, the better. No fan wants intrusive graphics, we want as much of the picture free as possible, and this is what the BBC has done, and successfully I believe. The score and clock can be seen with ease and it is for this reason that, IMHO, the BBC has done a fantastic job.


I don't understand is how the BBC are showing sponsors underneath their own yellow graphics during matches, I thought the BBC were licence fee funded!
DA
DAS Founding member
harshy posted:
Time Warp posted:
p_c_u_k posted:
Part of the reason the scoreboard is so small appears to be to allow the red button options to be shown beside it on digital.

As for the scoreflashes - they are sponsored so that will be the major reason. But also not every country will have the time and score at the top left - the presentation standards of different countries are very different - so it's quite handy for the others.


Also, with the astons, viewers can see goalscorers, if they have just tuned in.

Some people on here are complaining about the size of the scorebar from a presentational point of view, but, from a football fan's view, the smaller, the better. No fan wants intrusive graphics, we want as much of the picture free as possible, and this is what the BBC has done, and successfully I believe. The score and clock can be seen with ease and it is for this reason that, IMHO, the BBC has done a fantastic job.


I don't understand is how the BBC are showing sponsors underneath their own yellow graphics during matches, I thought the BBC were licence fee funded!


The BBC are showing a sponsored event. The companies are not sponsoring the BBC's coverage. The BBC are therefore required to show the sponsorship credits (bearing in mind that, apart from appearance, the BBC graphics are still originated from the host broadcaster).
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
ohwhatanight posted:
Andrew posted:


Overall I prefer the ITV graphics as they are slightly larger and clearer to read. I have watched some matches in a few pubs and the ITV graphics seemed clearer than the BBC's.

The only thing I don't like about the ITV graphics is the word SPORT next to ITV - it really annoys me!!!! All we need to know is whether it's BBC or ITV - we already know we are watching sport.
Maybe the word SPORT should reveal once the match has finished - similar to the BBC.


I also prefer the ITV graphics, purely because they are slightly larger. On my 15inch (CRT) monitor I physically cannot read the upper left graphics.
JO
johnofhertford
WTF, I swear the BBC dog is even smaller tonight. Or maybe I've just had too much sauce.
RO
Ronant
Really liking Marcel Desailly - wasn't sure what he would be like but seems really good so far. The BBC's pundits are miles better than ITV's - Jay Jay Okocha for example was pretty awful, but most of them have been.
RD
rdd Founding member
whiteside2005 posted:
the titles going out to the break on RTE 2 there looked a bit like BBC Sports with the FIFA WORLD CUP 2006 in a bar and below a smaller bar saying RTE Sport, BBC Sport style, hope you can understand that!



RTÉ have been doing that for a while with their sports programming. They've copied a lot of thing's blatantly from the BBC in their time, but this comes right second to the 1990s virtual news look in things they've blatantly copied from the BBC. Even the font used is nearly identical, RTE just use different colours (and it doesn't swoosh).

As for the RTÉ team - Bill O'Herilhy is main anchor, though Peter Collins is doing shifts too (they need something for him to do now that RTÉ have lost F1), Eammon Dunphy is doing his usual punditry, but he's been seperated from John Giles, who's been sent to Germany. George Hamilton is as usual lead commentator, but Jimmy Magee, and amazingly, Ger Canning (whom I thought might be required for The Sunday Game) are also commentation.

Graphics are the host broadcaster style, even for RTÉ's own captions, though on the usual RTÉ Sport backdrop and with the logo added.
LU
Luke
Ronant posted:
Really liking Marcel Desailly - wasn't sure what he would be like but seems really good so far. The BBC's pundits are miles better than ITV's - Jay Jay Okocha for example was pretty awful, but most of them have been.


can't agree with that. the BBC team is far too cliquey and in-jokey for my liking.
JO
johnofhertford
Luke posted:
Ronant posted:
Really liking Marcel Desailly - wasn't sure what he would be like but seems really good so far. The BBC's pundits are miles better than ITV's - Jay Jay Okocha for example was pretty awful, but most of them have been.


can't agree with that. the BBC team is far too cliquey and in-jokey for my liking.


Agree, should have gone the whole hog and stuck them in a pub!
HA
harshy Founding member
DAS posted:
harshy posted:
Time Warp posted:
p_c_u_k posted:
Part of the reason the scoreboard is so small appears to be to allow the red button options to be shown beside it on digital.

As for the scoreflashes - they are sponsored so that will be the major reason. But also not every country will have the time and score at the top left - the presentation standards of different countries are very different - so it's quite handy for the others.


Also, with the astons, viewers can see goalscorers, if they have just tuned in.

Some people on here are complaining about the size of the scorebar from a presentational point of view, but, from a football fan's view, the smaller, the better. No fan wants intrusive graphics, we want as much of the picture free as possible, and this is what the BBC has done, and successfully I believe. The score and clock can be seen with ease and it is for this reason that, IMHO, the BBC has done a fantastic job.


I don't understand is how the BBC are showing sponsors underneath their own yellow graphics during matches, I thought the BBC were licence fee funded!


The BBC are showing a sponsored event. The companies are not sponsoring the BBC's coverage. The BBC are therefore required to show the sponsorship credits (bearing in mind that, apart from appearance, the BBC graphics are still originated from the host broadcaster).


That would make sense, I am going to watch ZDF's coverage and the Beeb's together to see how the aston system works and just how synch there are, the pay broadcaster in Germany have adopted their own version of the graphics, so no point looking at them.
JO
johnofhertford
harshy posted:
DAS posted:
harshy posted:
Time Warp posted:
p_c_u_k posted:
Part of the reason the scoreboard is so small appears to be to allow the red button options to be shown beside it on digital.

As for the scoreflashes - they are sponsored so that will be the major reason. But also not every country will have the time and score at the top left - the presentation standards of different countries are very different - so it's quite handy for the others.


Also, with the astons, viewers can see goalscorers, if they have just tuned in.

Some people on here are complaining about the size of the scorebar from a presentational point of view, but, from a football fan's view, the smaller, the better. No fan wants intrusive graphics, we want as much of the picture free as possible, and this is what the BBC has done, and successfully I believe. The score and clock can be seen with ease and it is for this reason that, IMHO, the BBC has done a fantastic job.


I don't understand is how the BBC are showing sponsors underneath their own yellow graphics during matches, I thought the BBC were licence fee funded!


The BBC are showing a sponsored event. The companies are not sponsoring the BBC's coverage. The BBC are therefore required to show the sponsorship credits (bearing in mind that, apart from appearance, the BBC graphics are still originated from the host broadcaster).


That would make sense, I am going to watch ZDF's coverage and the Beeb's together to see how the aston system works and just how synch there are, the pay broadcaster in Germany have adopted their own version of the graphics, so no point looking at them.


No need, just compare the BBC with UKTV G2. UKTV are using the Host broadcaster. They are totally in synch, to the point that when a sub is made the HBS graphic swaps the two players between top and bottom row, and the BBC graphic changes from one name to the other (both names are on display the whole time on the HBS graphic but change place, only one player at a time is shown on the BBC graphic, but the name changes as the location changes on the HBS graphic).

The question is, why the hell the BBC went to all that effort just to make it all look the same. Bloody waste of time if you ask me, and waste of money! Not as big a waste of money as Ian Wright of course!
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tvmercia Founding member
after giving up with regional idents before the 6ish/7ish news during the world cup, i was surprised to hear this regional effort at 10.05. a specially recorded version without the "at ten oclock".

http://www.gorillaenterprises.co.uk/upload/uploadFiles/bbconemids-1005ident.wmv

are other regions doing similar?

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