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Winter Olympics 2018

PyeongChang, South Korea (November 2017)

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robertclark125
For a while in the 1990s, when Eurosport was showing recorded material of an event that was held earlier in the day, the Eurosport DOG had "Today" below it. Possibly something to consider bringing back?
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Brekkie
MY83 posted:
dvboy posted:
They are usually good at putting up a "highlights" or "earlier" graphic up on Eurosport UK though.


If we are talking about the LIVE bug integrated into the Eurosport 1/2 DOGs top right then I think that is a presentation addition for the duration of the show, not a reactive graphic inserted dynamically by the UK control rooms.


Indeed, after all - Sky Sports have LIVE text on all their bugs throughout their live football programmes, including during pre-recorded segments like interviews and features.

A bit different though having the graphic over pre-recorded build up than over the sports action.
NG
noggin Founding member
MY83 posted:

If we are talking about the LIVE bug integrated into the Eurosport 1/2 DOGs top right then I think that is a presentation addition for the duration of the show, not a reactive graphic inserted dynamically by the UK control rooms.


Indeed, after all - Sky Sports have LIVE text on all their bugs throughout their live football programmes, including during pre-recorded segments like interviews and features.

A bit different though having the graphic over pre-recorded build up than over the sports action.


As I said previously. In lots of European countries (and Eurosport is a European broadcaster) it is routine for live shows to have a LIVE bug put on their studio or OB output by presentation/playout/MCR for the duration of the programme. They don't take this out for elements of the show that are pre-recorded features, delayed or turned around sporting action or highlights. It's just a different culture.

Eurosport's evening highlights show on Kanal 5 in Sweden is a live show (with two presenters in a great studio in Korea). It broadcasts between 1900-2300 in Sweden (which is 0300-0700 in Korea). There is zero live competition in that time slot AIUI. The whole show has a 'direkt' (Live in Swedish) bug integrated into the Kanal 5 and Olympic logos top right in the channel DOG, throughout the show. It's a thing that lots of broadcasters do. The show is live - it has a live bug.
DV
DVB Cornwall

The IOC have a central "Olympic Data Feed" system, which is what I believe the graphics get their information from, along with other things such as the website, the app, scoreboards, etc. As this is a general API used by everyone, I suspect it doesn't have broadcast specific metadata such as what the graphics should be doing. I fact I suspect OBS, like most people, have only read access to it, given that scoring information also lives on this system.


Yes - though if the OBS graphics were themselves dynamically triggered from events data that the IOC provided then those triggers may also be available to third party rights holders? (This is just speculation on my part.)

I remember watching World Cup BBC and ITV feeds in parallel and seeing BBC Sport and Host graphics (on the ITV feed) perfectly slaved, so there is historically a way of doing this (and has been for 20 or so years at least). The BBC and ITV at that point both fed match coverage back live or as-live with graphics - one outlet was on-air live, the other recording for later replay (as edited highlights I think)


Agreed on World Cup metadata, and it's predate, however that's several degrees simpler than Olympic material, considering that bar the third group fixtures, there's only one competitive event in progress in any time-frame, the 'mechanics' for the match is consistent across the event too.

Whereas with the Olympics with up to 25 different sports families (in Tokyo 2020), Several events within each family, and different rules and conditions within the family event lends enormous complexities in comparison.
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Markymark
Interesting SVG article here (I don't think it's been posted in here yet ?)

https://www.svgeurope.org/blog/headlines/live-from-pyeongchang-bbc-sport-takes-remote-production-to-new-level/
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james-2001
It's wrong as well, saying the nightly highlight show is on BBC1, when it's actually on BBC2.
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Markymark
It's wrong as well, saying the nightly highlight show is on BBC1, when it's actually on BBC2.


It's a European technical journal, not a UK listings magazine Cool
Jon, UKnews and noggin gave kudos
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Brekkie
It's wrong as well, saying the nightly highlight show is on BBC1, when it's actually on BBC2.


It's a European technical journal, not a UK listings magazine Cool

Suspect the Daily Mail will correct it when they rewrite the article as "BBC send 90 people on jolly to film one presenter over night!"
RK
Rkolsen
I forget but one nation was only sending four people to the Olympics and was doing it all from home.

Now Sports Video Group has an article entitled Live From PyeongChang: Enhancements in Store for Viewers Around the Globe where one line is not quite clear and a bit confusing:

Quote:
Olympic Broadcasting Services (OBS) will deliver more than 5,000 total hours of coverage, including 850 hours live from PyeongChang.


Now what do they mean by 850 hours of live coverage from PyeongChang? I thought they were offering all the feeds live to rights holders. Could they be referring to events in the occurring specifically in PyeongChang Mountain Cluster compared to the ones at the Gangneung Coastal Cluster?

What sort of links (satellite/fiber) are broadcasters using to connect back to home base and how are they encoded? A lot of what I am reading has to deal with the video editing an MAM connections but not how live video for broadcast is sent home.

Discovery is using a 50Gbps WAN for all their services to connect back to it's MAM facility in Oslo. NBC is using 10 Gbps lines to connect two identical Harmonic Media Grid servers - one in Stamford and the other at the IBC. It takes less than a minute for content to be duplicated onto the Stamford system. NBC reportedly has 2,200 terabytes of storage on site.
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Gareth E
Not a fan of this pushback and ticker this morning on the BBC Two breakfast programme. Can understand the logic of the ticker with headlines every 15 minutes, but slightly annoying that the pushback appeared at 0830 just as they were showing Shaun White's gold medal winning halfpipe run - especially when the ticker revealed said result before the run was finished... 😣
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james-2001
I find it disapointed the BBC red button channel isn't in HD, in fact the picture quality on it is pretty dire too- looks like a low bitrate (on Virgin at least). It leads to me seeking out Eurosport for the events the BBC are putting on red button because their picture quality's so much higher. Shame, as I'd normally stick with the BBC.
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elmarko
What is this new cueing system the Beeb have? The delays from the round trip to Salford and back were the worst part of Sochi for me.

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