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Winter Hill in danger as fires merge and close in

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BBI45



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RI
Richard
Radio may be affected:

https://radiotoday.co.uk/amp/2018/06/winter-hill-fire-could-disrupt-radio-services/
RK
Rkolsen
Arqiva’s tweet says it’s looking safe.



SC
Si-Co
I drove down the M61 late last night and there was a lot of smoke drifting across the carriageway near Rivington, but no visible flames from Winter Hill itself. Although the fires are still a concern, it’s good to know the transmitting station itself is safe.
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nwtv2003
I can usually see Winter Hill from the back of my house, and more clearly when I drive into Leigh (about 5 mins from home), yesterday all I could see was thick smoke. Even at 12am last night, good thing the scale of the smoke hasn’t grown, well done to the emergency services for keeping it under control.
MA
Markymark

More importantly the Morborne mast was a local node point for mobile phone networks and other private and utility comms systems. Winter Hill will be the same

Wasn't a lot of that on the BT Tower next door?

There's another tower (or more) at Winter Hill, that apparently has the non broadcast stuff on it


A lot of stuff on the Peterborough BT mast next door were old horn antennas which were removed to allow the temporary DAB relay mast to be installed.


Nothing was removed from the BT tower next door, what was installed at the top a few days later was a simple dipole to allow national radio services to be restored. Although Classic FM managed to get back on the air just 18 hours after the collapse from the nearby ILR site at Gunthorpe. Orange and O2 services were lost over a wide area, as the broadcast mast was their node point. Take a look on mb21, the whole story is catalogued on there, ( and the Emley story is interesting too)
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Markymark
Is there a back-up situation in place, or will the North West have no tv and some radio stations for a few days while a temporary tx is installed?


The Manchester and Merseyside areas are swamped by signals from Moel y Parc in north Wales, so much so that during Freeview scans, its channels often grab primary EPG positions. If Winter Hill does fail, many will probably receive a usable service from MyP off the back of their aerials
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nwtv2003
Is there a back-up situation in place, or will the North West have no tv and some radio stations for a few days while a temporary tx is installed?


The Manchester and Merseyside areas are swamped by signals from Moel y Parc in north Wales, so much so that during Freeview scans, its channels often grab primary EPG positions. If Winter Hill does fail, many will probably receive a usable service from MyP off the back of their aerials


Certainly it’s easier in Merseyside to pick up signals from Moel-Y-Parc than it is Manchester. When DSO happened there were reports that Moel-Y-Parc signals were being picked up as far north as Blackpool.

A BBC News article yesterday implied that Radio was more at risk than TV should the fire had spread.
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Markymark

A BBC News article yesterday implied that Radio was more at risk than TV should the fire had spread.


Not sure why they said that. National FM radio services, and BBC Radio Manchester come from Holme Moss, and Key 103 is from Saddleworth. DAB services are present from a multitude of other sites, and quite honestly the other radio services from Winter Hill are candy floss stuff
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james-2001
Arqiva’s tweet says it’s looking safe.





That tweet's been posted 3 times now...
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Steve in Pudsey
Radio Lancashire is on WH, and it is a reasonably important relay of Holme Moss for radio.

I suspect that non broadcast services from the site (or neighbouring sites) may be a bigger issue - are things like police radios (airwave?) still up there?
VM
VMPhil
Arqiva’s tweet says it’s looking safe.





That tweet's been posted 3 times now...

It's been posted six times now if you include all the quoted posts, including this one.

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