SP
So basically another good argument for saying if the tennis is scheduled for BBC 2, leave it there.
NG
Trails don't grow on trees. You have to pay people to make them...
Also lots of shows are low priorities in marketing terms - so you concentrate your marketing fire power on things that you want people to know are definitely new, worth watching etc.
They are there to keep the marketing department happy, who aim to maximised audiences, which means more people watching Licence Fee funded output, which means more people think they are getting value for money.
Or they are there to try and get people to watch turkeys...
noggin
Founding member
I'm sure it's got more to do with (unjustified) paranoia that bored viewers will switch away, than any desire to promote Bake Off. You might wonder why the Beeb only seem to promote the same 10 to 20 programmes per week, when they transmit hundreds.
Trails don't grow on trees. You have to pay people to make them...
Also lots of shows are low priorities in marketing terms - so you concentrate your marketing fire power on things that you want people to know are definitely new, worth watching etc.
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I'm increasingly convinced all BBC trailers are primarily screened as 'attention keeping' measures rather than a service to inform and point folk towards something new per se
They are there to keep the marketing department happy, who aim to maximised audiences, which means more people watching Licence Fee funded output, which means more people think they are getting value for money.
Or they are there to try and get people to watch turkeys...
IN
*some* My Top Up TV branded Freeview+ box struggles with such moves, but then to be honest it struggles with straight forward timed recordings too.
Or another tick in favour of Freeview PVRS over Sky+.
*some* My Top Up TV branded Freeview+ box struggles with such moves, but then to be honest it struggles with straight forward timed recordings too.
HB
Doesn't look like the old or new ones...
Are these new graphics? (on now)
Doesn't look like the old or new ones...
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Ronnie_1990
Never seem them before, I must have not been paying any notice. 
JO
Budget cuts. Neither matching the host broadcaster graphics an old BBC set nor the BBC's current graphics. Would have been unthinkable a couple of years ago.
Budget cuts. Neither matching the host broadcaster graphics an old BBC set nor the BBC's current graphics. Would have been unthinkable a couple of years ago.
MA
Trails don't grow on trees. You have to pay people to make them...
Also lots of shows are low priorities in marketing terms - so you concentrate your marketing fire power on things that you want people to know are definitely new, worth watching etc.
Many of the trails are 'overproduced', now, I'm not advocating a return to the 70s and 80s practice of simply showing a random unedited 30 second extract from a programme, but some seem to be very expensively produced, and almost more elaborate than the programmes they are promoting. Also, they seem to concentrate on the most popular shows anyway, EastEnders, The Voice, Bake Off, or are they top rated because they are promoted ad infinitum ? Perhaps a little less overproduced, would allow for a greater range ?
I see elsewhere, that John McEnroe, commented on a trail stuffed into today's final, saying our TV was getting a bit too much like the US ?
Trails don't grow on trees. You have to pay people to make them...
Also lots of shows are low priorities in marketing terms - so you concentrate your marketing fire power on things that you want people to know are definitely new, worth watching etc.
Many of the trails are 'overproduced', now, I'm not advocating a return to the 70s and 80s practice of simply showing a random unedited 30 second extract from a programme, but some seem to be very expensively produced, and almost more elaborate than the programmes they are promoting. Also, they seem to concentrate on the most popular shows anyway, EastEnders, The Voice, Bake Off, or are they top rated because they are promoted ad infinitum ? Perhaps a little less overproduced, would allow for a greater range ?
I see elsewhere, that John McEnroe, commented on a trail stuffed into today's final, saying our TV was getting a bit too much like the US ?
MA
With regards to Sky, I suspect it's whether it gets identified as part of a series as to what gets recorded. I dare say BBC 1 Wimbledon, for example, is classed from the point of view of the Sky+ box as one series whereas BBC 2 Wimbledon is seen as another series. A match being moved from BBC Two to BBC One, especially when the main programme is already on air according to the EPG and just gets extended, isn't going to trigger an automatic recording on any platform to my mind.
Sky+ can't recognise series links on different channels. This is demonstrated when programmes such as Marr and Sunday Politics are moved to BBC Two for Sunday morning sporting events. It simply misses the broadcast on Two and sets the next recording on One for the following week.
If you wanted to make sure you captured the whole of Wimbledon, you'd have to set series link on both BBC One and Two, and hope that the box recognised any last minute change to the schedule as a linked programme in the series.
Well, that could be Sky's problem I think, because my You View box managed to capture Stargazing Live's BBC 2 and special BBC 1 broadcasts on Series Link, although that wasn't the result of a schedule change.
How do modern recording devices cope when a programme is moved to a different channel?
If you schedule a recording for tennis on BBC2 and it gets moved to BBC1, do Sky+ and the Virgin, Free view and Freesat equivalents still record it?
If you schedule a recording for tennis on BBC2 and it gets moved to BBC1, do Sky+ and the Virgin, Free view and Freesat equivalents still record it?
With regards to Sky, I suspect it's whether it gets identified as part of a series as to what gets recorded. I dare say BBC 1 Wimbledon, for example, is classed from the point of view of the Sky+ box as one series whereas BBC 2 Wimbledon is seen as another series. A match being moved from BBC Two to BBC One, especially when the main programme is already on air according to the EPG and just gets extended, isn't going to trigger an automatic recording on any platform to my mind.
Sky+ can't recognise series links on different channels. This is demonstrated when programmes such as Marr and Sunday Politics are moved to BBC Two for Sunday morning sporting events. It simply misses the broadcast on Two and sets the next recording on One for the following week.
If you wanted to make sure you captured the whole of Wimbledon, you'd have to set series link on both BBC One and Two, and hope that the box recognised any last minute change to the schedule as a linked programme in the series.
Well, that could be Sky's problem I think, because my You View box managed to capture Stargazing Live's BBC 2 and special BBC 1 broadcasts on Series Link, although that wasn't the result of a schedule change.