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What went wrong with night time

25 years of Night time: (July 2009)

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A former member

My guess is that it came from Meridian, which already provided playout for both itself and Anglia. As for the ident, here's both the short lived 1999 idents I found on an old tape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLnaV8OV8Ks


Thanks for those, do you have any idea what the ident where like before that.
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russnet Founding member
I know in Anglia land when they dropped their local continuity in favour of a generic one from Thames/LWT. We had this from them and then when Thames went at the end of 1992, Granada took over as late night host for Anglia and we had this
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A former member
I know in Anglia land when they dropped their local continuity in favour of a generic one from Thames/LWT. We had this from them and then when Thames went at the end of 1992, Granada took over as late night host for Anglia and we had this


what about 1995/96 from Meridain?

also This is Very strange, from March 2001 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cuvkpz1XLI

there two line ups for over night

* Granda, TT, Borders, central, London, Yorkshire, UTV another one for,
* Meridian, Anglia, HTV, westcountry and channel,

by 2001 all the above had the same didn't there?
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tesandco Founding member
And as there's such an interest in the overnight stuff at the moment, I've added a small bunch of extra clips to the page I mentioned earlier (will keep popping stuff up if I turn up anything interesting whilst digitising tapes!). Mostly stuff from the Granada originated service in the early nineties, but also a bit more from Night Shift, and Jobfinder from Channel 3 North East...
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Andrew Founding member
And as there's such an interest in the overnight stuff at the moment, I've added a small bunch of extra clips to the page I mentioned earlier (will keep popping stuff up if I turn up anything interesting whilst digitising tapes!). Mostly stuff from the Granada originated service in the early nineties, but also a bit more from Night Shift, and Jobfinder from Channel 3 North East...


Nice clip of YTV Jobfinder there. I think they kept that dated title sequence until around 2001/2002
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Andrew Founding member
jjne posted:
YTV/TTTV retailed an independent service from London until around May 1998. From January of that year all programmes were sourced from London but YTV placed their own presentation on top; first with YTV/C3NE idents, later with the dancer idents from London but with YTV announcers. This, I believe was done because YTV were experimenting with teleshopping at 12.30am, and shifting the night's programmes back half an hour without ad-breaks for the rest of the night.

I don't suppose anyone has any footage of this era with YTV announcers over the dancer idents. All clips of this era seem to be from the London based service with the same male announcer (that seemingly worked every night 7 days a week until 2002 or 2003!)
JJ
jjne
I thought Carlton had a live announcer, and it was LWT who just used pre-recorded idents with the same announcement over and over again.

I'm pretty sure I have a couple of YTV dancer idents kicking around somewhere on VHS. One day I will get around to digitising it all. They had a habit of only using one of them (the dark blue, slow clock-ticking one) and for some reason it only ever seemed to be Maggie Mash or John Crosse on them -- perhaps they were recorded, I'm not sure.
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nwtv2003
jjne posted:
I thought Carlton had a live announcer, and it was LWT who just used pre-recorded idents with the same announcement over and over again.


That sounds correct, it was the same set up with the Thames/LWT version of ITV Night Time in the early 90s, Thames had live announcers overnight, LWT didn't. Although towards the end by 2002 it sounded like on weekdays it was coming from London yet at Weekends they used the Leeds announcers for some reason, and a different version of the ITV ident, the no spinning heart version.
IS
Inspector Sands
Gavin Scott posted:

Where is the benefit to "closing down" a television service overnight?


1. Hours of power from broadcasting can be saved, which links to cutting carbon emissions.

That's not the case, the days when transmitters were turned off and on are long gone and with digital TV it can't be done as lots of services are multiplexed together - you can't just turn off BBC2 for example
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2. Saves money; BBC doesn't pay announcers or crew to continue operating the channel throughout the night. Additionally, the beeb doesn't pay royalties to rerun non in-house programming.

There's always been a skeleton staff in BBC playout overnight - directors looking after multiple channels, BBC1 not needing anyone and BBC2 needing only very basic input. The nighttime hours are useful for other things too and with BBC1 not closing down till late anyway it would save on only about 3 hours of wages

The programming it repeats overnight is signed, which is useful
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nwtv2003
The programming it repeats overnight is signed, which is useful


Indeed so, doing a good Public service and making use of otherwise dead air, I think if there was no Sign Zone then BBC One would probably finish at 1.00am usually.

I think Channel 4 are the only channel that has a full 24 hour schedule (except when Big Brother is on), but it does seem to be random at the best of times, from stuff like 4Music to Bollywood films and random repeats of Bob & Margaret, St Elsewhere and Countdown.

I think some people must have a nostalga for Closedown, but it's not as the Licence Fee has hiked up because of 24 hour broadcasting, it's full of repeats which probably cost very little to show and handing over to BBC News is useful for them too.
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A former member
I have just found this about 15mins worth of the Night network I would my guess as late 87, it also has the nice invison if Anglia CA:

Part1; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1xR_Cl334U
part2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRn0BwH7wBY

Two questions: was it December 1988, it was axed and do any of the ITV companies not take this service? expect for Central?

If you look at how other companies:
TVS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WAOlqENa9M
STV did it SO straight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3N-ghH4zeE
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A former member
I would like to ask if anyone can Answers some of the following questions.

* When did LWT/Thames start there 24 hours in 1987
* When Did STV started its 24 hour service early in 1988?
* Did any region apart from Central NOT take "Night Network"
* when in 1991 did TVS, HTV and Anglia Give up there own services?
* Can anyone remember other UK shows made for night times, 89 - 93, expect for Hitman, James whales.
* When did UMN ( Meridian, Anglia, HTV) compaines give up there own service and take the London feed: 1999 or 2000?

There are clips on YT of HTV night club! ( with one TSW CA)_

Does anyone else think ITV should try again for night time? If you look at most of the other channels there not providing any sort of midnight - 6am service

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