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(October 2004)

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Hi Folks

Eak, somehow lost the plot some ??years back and fallen off the roster, have been lurking and just had to re-grasp the nettle Rolling Eyes because just gotta say how *eysenck zee TV Forum ist vondrfeuille " - always has been, always can be, down to us (ahemn! plz forgive presumption of yet-again-noobie)!

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"seeing my face there, kissing the tortoise shell"
AN
All New Johnnyboy
tvarksouthwest posted:
As a result the GHO forum has developed into a strong, happy community where members feel genuinely at ease with each other. Members range from school pupils, students and retired teachers! However I realise that individual vetting of all applications might not be practical for TV Forum given the size of its membership. This would require two more mods at least! Still, that is one suggestion.


Then why is there this slightly perverted thjread at GH Online, if school pupils visit it?

'sexiest girl in grange hill' - http://www.grangehill.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126

While I appreciate there are some female teachers in GH, isn't this a soap about underage boys and girls mainly? Surely there is something wrong with a discussion about GH's most **** female?

I am not accusing you of fancying anyone underage from GH, Simon - I kind of know and respect you now, and that's just not you.

But, with your high-handed morality and overzealous moderation, I am surprised that this thread has been allowed to continue.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
itsrobert posted:
A user reported a post he felt needed moving at 20.55 -- I saw the post report around 15 mins later and moved it to the correct place. Had it not been reported, I wouldn't have seen it at all, as it wasn't a subject that interests me.


I'm not on the offensive here, but as we're discussing the situation openly then I might as well say it as I see it:

I'm not sure that a moderator who relies solely on other users to report incorrectly placed or offensive posts is worth having. Its not as if *I* have nothing to fill my days and evenings, yet I fairly consistently manage to check out each of the 'new post' topics on the front page at least. I'm not alone in that, surely? Anyone?

I haven't used the RTP service more than a dozen times since it was introduced. But why should members be clicking 'report' when arguably it would be easier for you to just keep an eye on the threads? It takes a couple of minutes to bring oneself up to speed on the posts from the previous day.

An example of what I mean was the day where our new little spamming flame-boy 'Paul2001' started three new topics on the main page - and one of those was started in triplicate. Each was followed up by sarcastic comments from forum users; and yet on went Paul - replying to himself, and making more and more up as he went along. I looked to see if a moderator was logged in, and there you were Rob, hanging around the BBC World thread and posting on Metropol too.

I have to say, if you are only going to rely on other users to flag up moderation requirements, then why bother doing it at all? I understand you say you, "enjoy it when you are not being abused", which is entirely fair, but I think the criticism you have taken of late has been more due to inactivity rather than over zealous moderation.

Again, I say this in the interests of an open debate, not as an attack on your character.
AN
All New Johnnyboy
No offence to itsrobert, but the boy does seem to have a serious case of BBC World addiction. I'd be a bit worried if I was Nick Gowing, who seems to have supplanted Stephen Cole as the channel's pert-ass [i]du jour[/i[

I actually watched BBC World for the first ever time in the Czech Republic last month as it was in our hotel-rooms, and boy is it dull.

itsrobert - get your finger out and start being a tyrant, tiger.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Gavin Scott posted:
itsrobert posted:
A user reported a post he felt needed moving at 20.55 -- I saw the post report around 15 mins later and moved it to the correct place. Had it not been reported, I wouldn't have seen it at all, as it wasn't a subject that interests me.


I'm not on the offensive here, but as we're discussing the situation openly then I might as well say it as I see it:

I'm not sure that a moderator who relies solely on other users to report incorrectly placed or offensive posts is worth having. Its not as if *I* have nothing to fill my days and evenings, yet I fairly consistently manage to check out each of the 'new post' topics on the front page at least. I'm not alone in that, surely? Anyone?

I haven't used the RTP service more than a dozen times since it was introduced. But why should members be clicking 'report' when arguably it would be easier for you to just keep an eye on the threads? It takes a couple of minutes to bring oneself up to speed on the posts from the previous day.

An example of what I mean was the day where our new little spamming flame-boy 'Paul2001' started three new topics on the main page - and one of those was started in triplicate. Each was followed up by sarcastic comments from forum users; and yet on went Paul - replying to himself, and making more and more up as he went along. I looked to see if a moderator was logged in, and there you were Rob, hanging around the BBC World thread and posting on Metropol too.

I have to say, if you are only going to rely on other users to flag up moderation requirements, then why bother doing it at all? I understand you say you, "enjoy it when you are not being abused", which is entirely fair, but I think the criticism you have taken of late has been more due to inactivity rather than over zealous moderation.

Again, I say this in the interests of an open debate, not as an attack on your character.


I refer you to my original point of not being here to police the forum. It may be very easy for you to check every thread each day, but say something happens after I've checked the threads for the day? People are far too impatient for action, and when I can't provide that immediately, I'll still get stick.

At the end of the day, Asa was the person who appointed me, and he doesn't have any problem with what I'm doing. Whether people like it or not, I'll continue reading threads of interest to me and using the post report facility to aid me in moderating other threads. If you believe being a moderator is a job of continuously policing every thread, then may I suggest that you're misguided?
CT
Chris Turnbull
Katherine posted:
HBK posted:
Katherine posted:
DO NOT, REPEAT, NOT CHOOSE ME AS A MODERATOR!!!!!!!!!!

A little reverse psychology going on there eh, Katherine? Laughing

Quote:
I am a power-mad control-freak lunatic with absolutely no history of sanity!
So is George W. Bush and he is the Illuminati-lovin' President of America Wink .
I think you'd be great as a mod. you've got my vote too.
So, you want to live under a totalitarian dictatorship then?
That's Funny, I thought we already did. Laughing
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
itsrobert posted:
I refer you to my original point of not being here to police the forum.


No dear, you're here to moderate it.

Quote:
If you believe being a moderator is a job of continuously policing every thread, then may I suggest that you're misguided?


I'm pretty sure you know I moderate on Metropol, and "policing" hardly comes into it.

If you can't see the middle ground then perhaps this open discussion is a bit of a waste of time.
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tvarksouthwest
All New Johnnyboy posted:
Then why is there this slightly perverted thjread at GH Online, if school pupils visit it?

'sexiest girl in grange hill' - http://www.grangehill.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126

While I appreciate there are some female teachers in GH, isn't this a soap about underage boys and girls mainly? Surely there is something wrong with a discussion about GH's most ****able female?

Absolutely not - and you're looking for undertones which simply aren't there. Everyone who's watched Grange Hill as its intended audience will have their favourite characters of the opposite sex. Are you telling me that in the children's programmes you watched, there was never a girl of similar age you took a shine to?

Look at the official forum at www.grangehill.com and you'll find similar threads, although many there tend to be from girls. Don't forget that Grange Hill has a sixth form these days, and the actors are often older than the characters they play.

There seem to be lots of double standards in society with regard to this subject. At 15, a girl is deemed underage and any male who takes advantage of her is, quite rightly, admonished. But look at tabloid coverage of Wimbledon every year. Once a female player turns 16, she's deemed fair game and the tabloids will go out of their way to snap revealing pics of her in action for male titillation.

Yet in Coronation Street, Martin Platt is sent to Coventry when he began dating 16-year old Katy. I personally have no problem with such a relationship; after all it's by mutual consent and no laws are being broken. Needless to say if Katy was still 15, it would be a different matter entirely.

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But, with your high-handed morality and overzealous moderation, I am surprised that this thread has been allowed to continue.

I'm nowhere near as high-handed as you think! In fact I can't remember the last time I closed a thread. Rarely do I have to intervene, and if I do it's because of wildcards like the person we had to ban.

As for the "sexiest girl" thread, I have seen nothing there which I would term inappropriate and it is completely within the context of the programme being discussed. If this is an issue of political correctness, our female members are perfectly welcome to start a "sexiest boy" thread!
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
Steering on topic it would be useful if the "Report this post" text link could be place on the bottom right of posts, away from the date. This might make the link stand out more to other users. For quite some time I didn't realise that the board actually had a report feature as the link is tucked away so to speak.

I think it is fair to say that is more useful for moderators if users use the link to report posts that are inappropiate or in the wrong place, rather than replying to the post. When an idiot is loose on the forum the worst thing that you can do is reply to the person, as it encourages them to keep replying.

Remember the majority of us have jobs or full-time study, and therefore it is impossible to moderate a site 24 hours a day (especially as we all need sleep).
JA
jamesmd
Charlie Wells posted:
Steering on topic it would be useful if the "Report this post" text link could be place on the bottom right of posts, away from the date. This might make the link stand out more to other users. For quite some time I didn't realise that the board actually had a report feature as the link is tucked away so to speak.

I think it is fair to say that is more useful for moderators if users use the link to report posts that are inappropiate or in the wrong place, rather than replying to the post. When an idiot is loose on the forum the worst thing that you can do is reply to the person, as it encourages them to keep replying.

Remember the majority of us have jobs or full-time study, and therefore it is impossible to moderate a site 24 hours a day (especially as we all need sleep).


And which site do you moderate...? Oh yeah, you moderate TV Forum, don't you - no! No! You moderate the world wide web!

Also, what we don't need is, if somebody tells someone where to go, eg. a link or another thread, is a tirage of abuse against them just because they were trying to help. And as well, all of these members who make up 9 page rants about how they're going to leave the forum. Well if you're going to leave, pîss off, nobody's stopping you. Even then, they sign up, like former BBC director generals ( Laughing figure it out) and then within 2 months begin complaining how the forum is in decline. The mock forum was, indeed, in decline, but now Asa's sorting that out.
AN
All New Johnnyboy
tvarksouthwest posted:
Absolutely not - and you're looking for undertones which simply aren't there. Everyone who's watched Grange Hill as its intended audience will have their favourite characters of the opposite sex. Are you telling me that in the children's programmes you watched, there was never a girl of similar age you took a shine to?


Oh, Simon, the thread is all about which (possibly) underage female that the members of GH Online want to or did want to have sex with!!!

The sight of a bunch of teenies and a bunch of older guys on the same forum lusting after these young women sends all the wrong signals.

One of the moderators used this in a post which is a little creepy -

Chrissy Mainwairing - especially in younger years

I think we will need to get a babe gallery running on the site!


There's something not right about that.

tvarksouthwest posted:
Look at the official forum at www.grangehill.com and you'll find similar threads, although many there tend to be from girls. Don't forget that Grange Hill has a sixth form these days, and the actors are often older than the characters they play.


Sixth form I don't have an issue with, but 'the younger the better' attitude is wrong.

tvarksouthwest posted:
There seem to be lots of double standards in society with regard to this subject. At 15, a girl is deemed underage and any male who takes advantage of her is, quite rightly, admonished. But look at tabloid coverage of Wimbledon every year. Once a female player turns 16, she's deemed fair game and the tabloids will go out of their way to snap revealing pics of her in action for male titillation.

Yet in Coronation Street, Martin Platt is sent to Coventry when he began dating 16-year old Katy. I personally have no problem with such a relationship; after all it's by mutual consent and no laws are being broken. Needless to say if Katy was still 15, it would be a different matter entirely.


There is a double standard, no doubt, but that is not the issue here.

tvarksouthwest posted:
As for the "sexiest girl" thread, I have seen nothing there which I would term inappropriate and it is completely within the context of the programme being discussed. If this is an issue of political correctness, our female members are perfectly welcome to start a "sexiest boy" thread!


It's about standards, Simon, and that thread shows none.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
James Hall posted:
Charlie Wells posted:
Steering on topic it would be useful if the "Report this post" text link could be place on the bottom right of posts, away from the date. This might make the link stand out more to other users. For quite some time I didn't realise that the board actually had a report feature as the link is tucked away so to speak.

I think it is fair to say that is more useful for moderators if users use the link to report posts that are inappropiate or in the wrong place, rather than replying to the post. When an idiot is loose on the forum the worst thing that you can do is reply to the person, as it encourages them to keep replying.

Remember the majority of us have jobs or full-time study, and therefore it is impossible to moderate a site 24 hours a day (especially as we all need sleep).


And which site do you moderate...? Oh yeah, you moderate TV Forum, don't you - no! No! You moderate the world wide web!

Also, what we don't need is, if somebody tells someone where to go, eg. a link or another thread, is a tirage of abuse against them just because they were trying to help. And as well, all of these members who make up 9 page rants about how they're going to leave the forum. Well if you're going to leave, pîss off, nobody's stopping you. Even then, they sign up, like former BBC director generals ( Laughing figure it out) and then within 2 months begin complaining how the forum is in decline. The mock forum was, indeed, in decline, but now Asa's sorting that out.


Just for the record I do moderate a message board which ended up with a very similar topic along these lines. No I don't moderate the world wide web, that's just being silly.

My point is that moderators do have a life outside of moderating and cannot do miracles. Using the 'report this post' feature can make lives easier and stop threads from flaming out of control.

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