the daft thing is swearing on live tv. It all goes out live yet any subsequent repeats on outtake shows had the swearing bleeped out.
What's the point, if some angry caller on a 'this morning' phone in calls everybody a 'load of fu##ing know it all wa##ers', why censor from a repeat at 9:30pm what was heared live at 11:30am?
Am I right in saying the watershed does not apply to some films screened by Sky Movies on PPV, as long as there's a security password used to gain access?
Yes and No.
Sky movie watersheds are 8pm, but they can't air 15 certified films before 8pm and not 18 certified films before 10pm, on the traditional service.
So far as Sky Movies 9 and 10 are concerned, the pin protection scheme doesn't apply anyway, but IIRC you can't show 18 rated movies on them before 8pm anyway.
With regards to Big Brother this year, Channel 4 continuity did make an effort to warn viewers of swearing.
For the live eviction shows on friday nights for example, the 8.30 junction would go out as normal such as "right now on 4, someone has to leave - it's eviction night on Big Brother".
They would then go to a break at 8.55pm and before playing The Carphone Warehouse sponsor clip when coming back from the break, there was a black and gold slide saying "Big Brother". Over this slide, the continuity announcer said something along the lines of "Back to Big Brother now on 4, which does contain strong language and flashing images" and this was at exactly 9.00pm.
What I can't understand is why show's such as Jonathan Ross have the "F" word beeped out? It's well into the Watershed.
all depends on the swear word as to what time of day they can depict it. The F word for instance isn't normaly heard until between 1130pm and 5am - same goes for the C word and the T word. A Drama can on the VERY odd occasions can have it in but it has to depend on the drama and gain sanction from the appropriate authroties.
That's **** though. C4 will screen it in shows like Wife Swap from 9pm.
With ITV you notice that in a programme like Bad Lads Army for example, the F-word will be bleeped out in the first couple of parts of the show, but is generally left in towards the end.
That could be because they have to be careful just after the watershed. Notice Big Brother often has a warning about stong language on the Friday night live shows during the break at around 9pm.
AFAIK the rules are also different depending on what time the programme starts, so for example a programme that starts at 8:30 could do less at 10:00 than a programme that starts at 9:30. Makes a lot of sense really - even though a programme straddles the watershed, if it starts before it you're more likely to have young viewers.
the daft thing is swearing on live tv. It all goes out live yet any subsequent repeats on outtake shows had the swearing bleeped out.
What's the point, if some angry caller on a 'this morning' phone in calls everybody a 'load of fu##ing know it all wa##ers', why censor from a repeat at 9:30pm what was heared live at 11:30am?
I believe that some live programmes have a short delay on them to screen (bleeps on swear-words etc) that sort of thing out? Or is that urban myth?
the daft thing is swearing on live tv. It all goes out live yet any subsequent repeats on outtake shows had the swearing bleeped out.
What's the point, if some angry caller on a 'this morning' phone in calls everybody a 'load of fu##ing know it all wa##ers', why censor from a repeat at 9:30pm what was heared live at 11:30am?
I believe that some live programmes have a short delay on them to screen (bleeps on swear-words etc) that sort of thing out? Or is that urban myth?
I thought they did that with radio phone-ins as well but that appears not to be the case as I distinctly remember one caller from the opposition side, who had just been beat by Sheff Utd, on BBC Radio Sheffield calling all the fans f---ing c---s live on air.
Generally in the UK things do go out 100% live unless they run into problems with the regulator and are forced (or agree) to use a time delay to eliminate future problems.
I thought they did that with radio phone-ins as well but that appears not to be the case as I distinctly remember one caller from the opposition side, who had just been beat by Sheff Utd, on BBC Radio Sheffield calling all the fans f---ing c---s live on air.
The majority of radio phoneins are done on a delay - the above snafu was probably an unfortunate exception to the rule.
Modern radio digital delay lines are quite complex and can gradually mix into "delayed" from "live" over a period of a few minutes by ever so slightly timestretching the output over that period.
Obviously they rely on a reasonably skilled operator to listen to the goings-on in the studio and if he hears something awful, both him and the presenter have to then switch to listening to the broadcasted (delayed) output, and cut in at an appropriate point before the profanity occurs. They are then back to being live and should theoretically not take any more calls until they are back in the delay.
For the odd request or mention dropped into a normal programme, the procedure nowadays is to pre-record the caller during the previous record, then drop it in as-live. Not only does this provide a safety net against profanities, but it also gives the jock an oppurtunity to "clean up" the caller, take out ums and ers etc. Unfortunately some jocks are not very good at seamlessly integrating the pre-rec'd sections into live links and they can often be spotted a mile off!
Anyway to come back to the topic of TV, I imagine running sections of a programme in a delay would be technically extremely complicated, and I suspect if it does happen, they delay the entire show from start to finish. Quite how they'd deal with an incident I'm not sure. Maybe stick up a slide for a few seconds to hide it!