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Who wants to see BBC Scotland Countdown clock?

We get to see unseen bits; (February 2017)

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A former member
Right place at the right time, We get to see countdown clock at 35 second, going into the next trail:

Very nice to see this, we never get to see such back end piece of TV pres. Mr Currie did a good job explaining it to the normal viewer .

SC
scottishtv Founding member Central Reporting Scotland
Nicely captured!

When I first saw the thumbnail image for this YouTube video on the Forum's homepage feed, I genuinely thought that the still below was going to be the next ident in the package for BBC One:

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Seems the BBC could've shopped well for less.
RK
Rkolsen World News
Good catch... I always liked seeing that sort of stuff. I remember seeing the occasional preroll and slates that would be placed at the beginning of video taped packages. Of course these are incredibly rare now that everything's tapeless - maybe there's a slate if anything at all.

Maybe I'm thinking to much into it but seeing something extra like a special preroll that only may be seen by those internally shows an extra sense of "pride" for their product. I'm thinking of things like that one video (can't find it) that the BBC made for internal routing showing scenes in and around NBH along with the key phone numbers.

Now there are a few things in the US that are designed to be seen even if they aren't supposed to such as the countdowns leading into a special report. Ideally if a special report occurs during a network program your not supposed to see a countdown at all but if a station is local a well trained operator should be able to cut to the network at 0. But it could be said at the same time these countdowns serve as a gesture of warning the viewers that something's going on when it it comes to the music before the official open - NBC uses The Mission (dubbed by some as the chimes of death), CBS uses a portion of their theme while ABC are just blips.
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A former member
What's a bit sad is,Since everything is on computer it can be updated pretty fast. I remember 1985 stv logo being on countdown slide in the late 90s.
GE
thegeek Founding member London London
Good catch... I always liked seeing that sort of stuff. I remember seeing the occasional preroll and slates that would be placed at the beginning of video taped packages. Of course these are incredibly rare now that everything's tapeless - maybe there's a slate if anything at all.

The delivery spec shared by all major UK broadcasters still requires a clock before each programme part for file and tape deliveries of finished programmes. (I don't think it's necessarily needed for live broadcasts - in fact, I think noggin may have recently mentioned that the BBC require one isn't used for live TXes.)
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SP
Steve in Pudsey Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Being pedantic, isn't it the case that they will accept a clock on a live TX if there will be a repeat, to make sure that there is a clock on the recording?
Write that down in your copybook now.
GE
thegeek Founding member London London
You could be right - I couldn't see any mention on the BBC delivery spec, but then again I was just skim-reading it!
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harshy Founding member
Good catch... I always liked seeing that sort of stuff. I remember seeing the occasional preroll and slates that would be placed at the beginning of video taped packages. Of course these are incredibly rare now that everything's tapeless - maybe there's a slate if anything at all.

The delivery spec shared by all major UK broadcasters still requires a clock before each programme part for file and tape deliveries of finished programmes. (I don't think it's necessarily needed for live broadcasts - in fact, I think noggin may have recently mentioned that the BBC require one isn't used for live TXes.)

From the few BBC live feeds I've seen there is no vt clock just the first frame of the titles to be played out.
IS
Inspector Sands
Yes, and hopefully the circuit hasn't failed between lining up with the live programme and the time it goes on air.

VT clocks have outlived VTs. When the BBC started playing programmes from server the programmes were ingested onto the server with VT clocks and the director would adjust the start time by 5 seconds so they could see it and check the programme number etc. I'm pretty sure they were run from the first frame though
CO
commseng London London
The Six Nations on the BBC used to start on a still of black before flames started.
That was always a heart stopping moment to see yourself back off air as black......

Most OBs still use clocks, the show I am working on does, as it is timed exactly the same as the programme material.
Any talkback may not reach all broadcasters, and delays through the lines mean clocks timings are not perfect unless you have been able to check beforehand.
A programme to one broadcaster you can do that, but not to many.
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TVMan Central Reporting Scotland
A VT clock just popped up in the background of Let It Shine, as part of a Retro TV themed performance, also featuring an old BBCTV camera and a recreation of the original BBC2 ident.

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