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NJ
Neil Jones Founding member Central (West) Midlands Today
Joe posted:
I don't think you particularly need to understand much of the universe, to be honest – nothing you can't pick up as you go, at least so far.


I think it's safe to say you will not have a Scooby. Even what little info-dumps there are will probably only leave you more confused.


That's two not the least bit contradictory opinions...

I don't know if this is a Harry Potter thing again where hardcore fans insist the films make no sense if you've not read the books... even though me and loads of other people I know have never had any issues with the films despire never reading the books.


It'll be fine. I intend to watch this WandaVision at some point, and I probably give even less of a monkeys about the MCU than you do.

If it turns out I haven't a clue what's going on, then I haven't a clue whats going on and I'll go and find something else to watch. No skin of my nose.
JA
james-2001 Central (East) East Midlands Today
At the very least I shouldn't have any problems understanding the 50s and 60s US sictom references, the sheer number I've watched over the years (even some which I don't think have even been shown in the UK!).
JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
I've been thinking about watching this, but I've not seen any other MCU stuff- do you need to be familiar with it and the characters to understand it and know what's going on, or does it stand well by itself?


If you don't mind being spoiled on what happens in the movies, there's a short (7 minutes-ish) show on Disney+ called Legends which runs through the backstory of Wanda and Vision using relevant clips from the films. The films they appear in are Age of Ultron, Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame, though the more of the others you've seen the more rewarding little bits you'd pick up.

There's also a couple of characters that show up from the Thor and Ant-Man films.
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member London London
JAS84 posted:
I've been thinking about watching this, but I've not seen any other MCU stuff- do you need to be familiar with it and the characters to understand it and know what's going on, or does it stand well by itself?


If you don't mind being spoiled on what happens in the movies, there's a short (7 minutes-ish) show on Disney+ called Legends which runs through the backstory of Wanda and Vision using relevant clips from the films. The films they appear in are Age of Ultron, Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame, though the more of the others you've seen the more rewarding little bits you'd pick up.

There's also a couple of characters that show up from the Thor and Ant-Man films.


Yep absolutely, though it doesn't affect the story in any way if they haven't been seen before as the characters are properly introduced, it's just an enjoyable connection (with a couple of call-back gags) for those who have seen them. You'll also get a bit more out of it if you've seen Captain Marvel as well.

Going back to the original point of the thread, a lot of the period references have worked really well, I thought the subtle changes from 50s to 60s were interesting, before we got to the more obvious ones later. Apparently the first episode was genuinely shot in front of a studio audience (of Marvel employees) with even the crew dressed in 50s clothes. After all that attention to detail the rest of the time, the 1980s episode being 16:9 was an odd choice, though as some have said, we can write it off as "HD transfer of the original print".
WH
what West Country (East) Points West
If you’re confused about the references, which there are a lot of, you should try the trivia sections for each episode on IMDB.

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BR
Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Not a fan of Marvel at all but loving this - it is really well done and funny as well. The archive TV tropes are really well done. Odd though to have a full movie studio sting minutes into the opening.
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RD
rdd Founding member
Not a fan of Marvel at all but loving this - it is really well done and funny as well. The archive TV tropes are really well done. Odd though to have a full movie studio sting minutes into the opening.


Since we are here to talk TV presentation..that Marvel Studios sting probably has to be the longest and most elaborate frontcap in possibly the history of television. The end credits are pretty long too by TV show standards. As if each episode is treated as a mini-movie, despite most episodes being actually shorter than most network TV hour long shows.
BR
Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Six and a half minutes of credits out of episodes around half an hour long. The animated part is very nice.

I guess with them released weekly they're less concerned about people moving on to the next episode.
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JO
Jonwo
Brekkie is enjoying something...!? That's a turn up for the books!
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WH
Whataday Founding member Wales Wales Today
rdd posted:
Since we are here to talk TV presentation..that Marvel Studios sting probably has to be the longest and most elaborate frontcap in possibly the history of television.


I have to say, Sega's attempt at a similar sting at the start of the Sonic The Hedgehog movie as if it heralded the start of a new cinematic universe did make me giggle:



The WandaVision credits are so long because they have to credit all the foreign language voice artists, presumably.
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JO
Jonwo
rdd posted:
Since we are here to talk TV presentation..that Marvel Studios sting probably has to be the longest and most elaborate frontcap in possibly the history of television.


I have to say, Sega's attempt at a similar sting at the start of the Sonic The Hedgehog movie as if it heralded the start of a new cinematic universe did make me giggle


The Sega one I thought was quite good, it's more similar Marvel's film original logo than the 2016 one. The recent DC one which WB uses for most of those films is quite effective as well:
SH
Sh1ruba Recently warned Central (West) Midlands Today
Jonwo posted:
rdd posted:
Since we are here to talk TV presentation..that Marvel Studios sting probably has to be the longest and most elaborate frontcap in possibly the history of television.


I have to say, Sega's attempt at a similar sting at the start of the Sonic The Hedgehog movie as if it heralded the start of a new cinematic universe did make me giggle


The Sega one I thought was quite good, it's more similar Marvel's film original logo than the 2016 one. The recent DC one which WB uses for most of those films is quite effective as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpfUGAtA4L0


Also WB themselves have a nice looking new opening logo featuring their new blue and white shield introduced in late 2019.
However, its first appearance doesn't have the usual fanfare music. Also the Warner Animation Group logo has been updated to look more like the new shield and that will be appearing in the new Tom and Jerry movie.

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