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FT
FrenchTvFan
RtH posted:

The only thing it was missing was the titles. I kinda like the theme tune. It's catchy! Wink


In that case, [url] Wink.


Hi, I think you should remove the file you posted because this is commercial music, there are three albums with the music of the voice sold by target music at the following links:

http://www.targetmusic.nl/order_payment?id=112443268&rtlo=66627&rtaff=27689
http://www.targetmusic.nl/order?step=1&id=112328381&rtlo=37194&rtaff=17958
http://www.targetmusic.nl/order_payment?id=112300284&rtlo=66627&rtaff=27689

You can buy the albums at €9.99 (about £8.34) so I think that if you want that music, you'd better buy the tracks, for once they are available to download...

FrenchTVFan Wink
AC
aconnell
Those links are a great find. Thanks so much!
JA
jay Founding member
jay posted:
The one bit I don't get about The Voice. OK so the judges... sorry, coaches can't see them when they audition. After this point, they can see them. So from this point on I don't see the difference to any other show. They are still going to be judged on their looks and everything else by the people who phone in and vote. The thing about it just being about "the voice" only applies for the initial audition.

I watched about 45 minutes of it and, yeah, it was OK. It was very well presented, but it was just completely underwhelming. X Factor hasn't become such a hit because of the quality of the singers, it has done so because it is entertaining, and I don't think The Voice has the ability to become the talking point and must-see show that X Factor, rightly or wrongly, so often is.


I completely agree.

And the fact that the singers have already been picked by the producers and researchers makes it all the more similar to every other talent show. Surely the whole point is that none of us see the performer, and judge them on the voice only?? Why aren't they performing behind a screen or something?

The fact this show was promoted without having all the sob stories, makes it all the more worse when in fact that's all there were.


The "sob stories" give context about the people performing to the viewer. The coaches don't know that so aren't swayed. People on here keep talking like every single person in Britian wants to laugh at the freaks. Well this might be a shock to people but not everybody does.


I'm really sorry but the show is completely flawed from the start!

If the show is REALLY about 'The Voice', then surely us, as viewers, shouldn't see what they look like at all? Surely they should be performing behind a screen, so that we only see their silhouette?

These people have already been selected because they have a good voice, and a 'background story' to make them appear more interesting to the public. From the moment a coach presses their buzzer, and turns around to see them then the show loses the whole purpose of it being just about the voice. From that moment on, any decisions made by the coach about who is a better singer than another contestant will be purely based on the complete package.

Do you really think the great british public are going to vote for someone who looks like the back end of a bus with a good voice, or the woman that's lost all of her hair because of an illness, with a mediocre voice?
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
jay posted:
I'm really sorry but the show is completely flawed from the start!

If the show is REALLY about 'The Voice', then surely us, as viewers, shouldn't see what they look like at all? Surely they should be performing behind a screen, so that we only see their silhouette?

These people have already been selected because they have a good voice, and a 'background story' to make them appear more interesting to the public. From the moment a coach presses their buzzer, and turns around to see them then the show loses the whole purpose of it being just about the voice. From that moment on, any decisions made by the coach about who is a better singer than another contestant will be purely based on the complete package.

Do you really think the great british public are going to vote for someone who looks like the back end of a bus with a good voice, or the woman that's lost all of her hair because of an illness, with a mediocre voice?


No way Jay - you were hating on the show within 3 minutes because you didn't like the opening musical number! Wink

Its totally cool if you prefer the way Thames do entertainment - which is exactly what you said that night - but if you start picking holes in the process or premise, I'll do the same with the Cowell shows. I don't think any of these shows stand up to too much scrutiny - they are, after all, just entertainment programmes.

But Cowell's certainly wouldn't pass any tests above The Voice!
AN
all new Phil
I think you're right, Gav, when you say that the show is maybe The X Factor for people who don't like Cowell - I do think however that the show has been overhyped and over praised by people purely because they don't like him and his shows, and it's "cool" to not like Cowell. Not that that's necessarily the case for yourself and everyone that likes it, but I do think interest will wane over the course of the series.
TR
trivialmatters
jay posted:
If the show is REALLY about 'The Voice', then surely us, as viewers, shouldn't see what they look like at all? Surely they should be performing behind a screen, so that we only see their silhouette?


The judges decide if they 'want' an act based on the blind audition. Once they're chosen, they've got to keep them, based solely on The Voice.

Whatever happens after that doesn't matter because the peopel who have been chosen to go through have been chosen on the quality of their voice, and the judges don't know the sob stories.

Also, we know that everybody that they say 'yes' to will be with the show until they're eliminated - whereas X Factor seem to say yes to 100s of contestants, only to sweep 90% of them under the rug almost instantly in a mass cull which we don't even get to see.

With The Voice, if the coaches like them based on their blind audition, they're on board for the long haul.
GM
Gary McEwan
I can't believe that they rejected Kerry Ellis though who is a big West End star! And I thought this was meant to be a competition based on singing ability. Are they all tone deaf to reject her?
JA
jay Founding member
jay posted:
I'm really sorry but the show is completely flawed from the start!

If the show is REALLY about 'The Voice', then surely us, as viewers, shouldn't see what they look like at all? Surely they should be performing behind a screen, so that we only see their silhouette?

These people have already been selected because they have a good voice, and a 'background story' to make them appear more interesting to the public. From the moment a coach presses their buzzer, and turns around to see them then the show loses the whole purpose of it being just about the voice. From that moment on, any decisions made by the coach about who is a better singer than another contestant will be purely based on the complete package.

Do you really think the great british public are going to vote for someone who looks like the back end of a bus with a good voice, or the woman that's lost all of her hair because of an illness, with a mediocre voice?


No way Jay - you were hating on the show within 3 minutes because you didn't like the opening musical number! Wink

Its totally cool if you prefer the way Thames do entertainment - which is exactly what you said that night - but if you start picking holes in the process or premise, I'll do the same with the Cowell shows. I don't think any of these shows stand up to too much scrutiny - they are, after all, just entertainment programmes.

But Cowell's certainly wouldn't pass any tests above The Voice!


There were many reasons I didn't enjoy the show actually Gavin, and while it's true I find the Cowell shows much more entertaining than the BBC range of programmes, I was hoping for the Voice to be much much better than it actually was. The opening number was one of the very many nails in the coffin for me.

As Phil has said, I expect viewers to loose interest as the show goes on.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
jay posted:
There were many reasons I didn't enjoy the show actually Gavin, and while it's true I find the Cowell shows much more entertaining than the BBC range of programmes, I was hoping for the Voice to be much much better than it actually was. The opening number was one of the very many nails in the coffin for me.


Well... ok. We won't fight about it.

If I was being pedantic I would suggest you probably *weren't* hoping it would be good, as if you were chalking up 'coffin nails' within the first moments of the show, you weren't really giving it a fair chance - but I feel the same way about Cowell productions - with all the deliberate tabloid leaks, "intrigue" over judges fighting, scandals over voting and autotune, etc.

Its not that I think its "not cool to like Cowell", I actually don't like the way he does business, or the programmes.

But those judgements on my part tend to ignore that vast chunks of the UK enjoy the end result, no matter what.

I think we're both doing the same thing in reverse, so by definition, that seems fair play all round.
CY
cylon6
The one bit I don't get about The Voice. OK so the judges... sorry, coaches can't see them when they audition. After this point, they can see them. So from this point on I don't see the difference to any other show. They are still going to be judged on their looks and everything else by the people who phone in and vote. The thing about it just being about "the voice" only applies for the initial audition.

I watched about 45 minutes of it and, yeah, it was OK. It was very well presented, but it was just completely underwhelming. X Factor hasn't become such a hit because of the quality of the singers, it has done so because it is entertaining, and I don't think The Voice has the ability to become the talking point and must-see show that X Factor, rightly or wrongly, so often is.


Precisely what I think - "it's all about the voice" is just a gimmick to get people who don't like The X Factor to think this is the good alternative.

The gimmick is exactly what makes it different plus the fact they don't have the poorer singers. At the end of the day singing competitions will have similarities. The X Factor is pretty much Pop Idol with judges competing so Cowell didn't exactly create something particularly new himself.

But if people like Cowell's shows they generally speaking won't like The Voice.
SW
SWatson7
I've only just got round to watching this and I'm not too sure what to make of it. Its like a poorly produced version of X Factor with back to front auditions, not just because the judges are facing away but because the contestants get their yes or no, then the judges speak to the contestants. Thats the only difference. I found it trying too hard to be credible and I'm also sceptical about the chances of careers after the show for some of these contestants. So far it seems to be the same standard as the cannon fodder that make it through to the X Factor live shows but are eliminated within 3 weeks. Even rejected contestants will be appearing in future episodes. On that basis I don't know how the BBC can seriously claim they have a higher standard of talent. The over reliance on sob stories didn't help with the anti-X Factor stance either, especially considering X Factor stopped doing them in 2008. The first few contestants on were fat, bald, old/'last chance', second chance, lacking confidence etc.

I've watched some of the worldwide versions on Youtube and some become very cheesy particularly during the battle rounds, even having a boxing ring on the set. I hope the BBC don't take the show down that route because the X Factor comparisons will just become worse. Love them or hate them, X Factor and BGT are the two best produced entertainment shows on British TV. They are extremely slick and most other entertainment shows try to copy them. The Voice has set itself up to compete with Cowell shows, so that has to be reflected in the production. I'm also unashamed to admit that I did miss the rubbish contestants, they're always a good laugh and make good TV. It also makes you realise how good the other contestants are too (most years) and just makes other talent shows that bit more entertaining. I didn't find The Voice that entertaining and felt that each act was too drawn out. I'll watch it again tomorrow to see if they have changed anything in response to feedback, but if it continues like last week, the novelty will wear off rather quickly and it may not be the success the BBC are hoping for.
FA
fanoftv
I'll watch it again tomorrow to see if they have changed anything in response to feedback, but if it continues like last week, the novelty will wear off rather quickly and it may not be the success the BBC are hoping for.


Bringing up a point on this. I was listening to Boyd Hilton earlier this week on Richard Bacon's Radio 5 show. He mentioned that around the world most versions of The Voice end up with lower audiences for the second episodes for some reason. I presume that it's people tuning into the first episode to see what it's like, and just like you say, the novelty wearing off.

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