BU
I personally didn't say anything of the sort - besides, Adele's first album was released about four years ago, as opposed to one year ago for Jessie J. Whatever you've been doing in the background, you need a bit of time to build your public image and show you have staying power if you're going to act up as much as she did (as became obvious when Will.i.am and Tom Jones's experience somewhat outgunned her). One similar example would be a show in 2009 with Duffy as a judge - say no more.
As a show it's fine, if you like that sort of thing. Clearly very well made and much more confident a debut then Fame Academy. What I have a bit of an issue with is the whole "we're different" schtick they've made such a big deal of when it's so so similar to the tired old show they're supposed to be in opposition with. And as regards the sob stories - I look forward to the episode where someone with a sad backstory turns out to be not good enough, rather than being put through to the sound of some inspirational music...
And it's funny how people say Jessie J has hardly been in the industry but say Adele's credible when they are the same age and were in the same year at The Brits school.
I personally didn't say anything of the sort - besides, Adele's first album was released about four years ago, as opposed to one year ago for Jessie J. Whatever you've been doing in the background, you need a bit of time to build your public image and show you have staying power if you're going to act up as much as she did (as became obvious when Will.i.am and Tom Jones's experience somewhat outgunned her). One similar example would be a show in 2009 with Duffy as a judge - say no more.
As a show it's fine, if you like that sort of thing. Clearly very well made and much more confident a debut then Fame Academy. What I have a bit of an issue with is the whole "we're different" schtick they've made such a big deal of when it's so so similar to the tired old show they're supposed to be in opposition with. And as regards the sob stories - I look forward to the episode where someone with a sad backstory turns out to be not good enough, rather than being put through to the sound of some inspirational music...
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BU
There were a few 'sob stories' but not in the same way as the Cowell shows use them. They've chosen to give a bit of background to each contestant and so of course some things are going to be mentioned... we'd have thought it odd if the bald woman appeared on stage without any explanation of why she had no hair!
True, but then she could equally have just performed with the head scarf on as she had right at the start and not made an issue of it. After all, it is all about the voice. But instead it became part of the story.
But unlike the X Factor, they weren't dwelled on, or shown with dramatic music and slow fades, and most importantly the backgrounds weren't told to the 4 on the panel
I found a lot of the editing techniques were exactly the same, actually. X Factor's become a bit of a cliché in that respect and it's a shame they followed most of it.
That is a big difference though. The 'freak show' element of The X Factor and BGT is such a major part of their formats, in fact some people (including myself I'm embarrassed to say) only watch them until the bad ones are whittled out.
It is, but it's one that helps get people interested early on, despite being morally dubious. And they never stop the "real talent" getting through as far as I can tell. I find it hard to believe that had bald woman and large guy turned up on X Factor they'd have been turned away purely because of how they looked - in fact normally people like that get put through because the judges are (wrongly) surprised that they're actually quite good.
There were a few 'sob stories' but not in the same way as the Cowell shows use them. They've chosen to give a bit of background to each contestant and so of course some things are going to be mentioned... we'd have thought it odd if the bald woman appeared on stage without any explanation of why she had no hair!
True, but then she could equally have just performed with the head scarf on as she had right at the start and not made an issue of it. After all, it is all about the voice. But instead it became part of the story.
But unlike the X Factor, they weren't dwelled on, or shown with dramatic music and slow fades, and most importantly the backgrounds weren't told to the 4 on the panel
I found a lot of the editing techniques were exactly the same, actually. X Factor's become a bit of a cliché in that respect and it's a shame they followed most of it.
That is a big difference though. The 'freak show' element of The X Factor and BGT is such a major part of their formats, in fact some people (including myself I'm embarrassed to say) only watch them until the bad ones are whittled out.
It is, but it's one that helps get people interested early on, despite being morally dubious. And they never stop the "real talent" getting through as far as I can tell. I find it hard to believe that had bald woman and large guy turned up on X Factor they'd have been turned away purely because of how they looked - in fact normally people like that get put through because the judges are (wrongly) surprised that they're actually quite good.
IS
Yes, as I said The Voice did have a lot of the conventions that have come from the years of Pop Stars/Pop Idol/X Factor/Got Talent, that was fairly obvious in the way the programme was shot and edited. However it really didn't have the sentimental pulling of the heart strings sequences that the other programmes are known for. There was no 'you build me up!' moments
I found a lot of the editing techniques were exactly the same, actually. X Factor's become a bit of a cliché in that respect and it's a shame they followed most of it.
Yes, as I said The Voice did have a lot of the conventions that have come from the years of Pop Stars/Pop Idol/X Factor/Got Talent, that was fairly obvious in the way the programme was shot and edited. However it really didn't have the sentimental pulling of the heart strings sequences that the other programmes are known for. There was no 'you build me up!' moments
IS
She's been in the business for years, writing music for other people. She always wanted to be a pop star but was set back somewhat after having a stroke when she was 18.
I actually thought Jessie J was one of the best things about the programme, and to be honest I'd no idea who she was this time last week.
I know my parents do this, and I have a few friends who do the same, and yet oddly the ratings don't seem to match that pattern. Surely you'd expect ratings for a series like this to go down as the final approaches and peoples' favourites have been voted off, as opposed to go up and up - why do people who have no interest or buy-in to the series start tuning in towards the end?
Because as the series go on there are people to follow and that builds an audience.
It doesn't mean that no-one stops watching after the freaks disappear though, I'm sure there are others who just watch the second half of the run
Oh and Jessie J is insufferable. Talking about hamming it up when choosing whether to press her button or not. She's only been in "the business" twelve months. At the least The Bloke From The Script keeps his mouth shut most of the time to match his status...
She's been in the business for years, writing music for other people. She always wanted to be a pop star but was set back somewhat after having a stroke when she was 18.
I actually thought Jessie J was one of the best things about the programme, and to be honest I'd no idea who she was this time last week.
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I know my parents do this, and I have a few friends who do the same, and yet oddly the ratings don't seem to match that pattern. Surely you'd expect ratings for a series like this to go down as the final approaches and peoples' favourites have been voted off, as opposed to go up and up - why do people who have no interest or buy-in to the series start tuning in towards the end?
Because as the series go on there are people to follow and that builds an audience.
It doesn't mean that no-one stops watching after the freaks disappear though, I'm sure there are others who just watch the second half of the run
CY
I personally didn't say anything of the sort - besides, Adele's first album was released about four years ago, as opposed to one year ago for Jessie J. Whatever you've been doing in the background, you need a bit of time to build your public image and show you have staying power if you're going to act up as much as she did (as became obvious when Will.i.am and Tom Jones's experience somewhat outgunned her). One similar example would be a show in 2009 with Duffy as a judge - say no more.
As a show it's fine, if you like that sort of thing. Clearly very well made and much more confident a debut then Fame Academy. What I have a bit of an issue with is the whole "we're different" schtick they've made such a big deal of when it's so so similar to the tired old show they're supposed to be in opposition with. And as regards the sob stories - I look forward to the episode where someone with a sad backstory turns out to be not good enough, rather than being put through to the sound of some inspirational music...
I never said you did. I should have made that clearer my apologies for that one. It's just that I've read people talking about Jessie J's credibility and it reminded me of that. It was more of an "oh yeah and another thing" general comment rather than aimed at you.
And it's funny how people say Jessie J has hardly been in the industry but say Adele's credible when they are the same age and were in the same year at The Brits school.
I personally didn't say anything of the sort - besides, Adele's first album was released about four years ago, as opposed to one year ago for Jessie J. Whatever you've been doing in the background, you need a bit of time to build your public image and show you have staying power if you're going to act up as much as she did (as became obvious when Will.i.am and Tom Jones's experience somewhat outgunned her). One similar example would be a show in 2009 with Duffy as a judge - say no more.
As a show it's fine, if you like that sort of thing. Clearly very well made and much more confident a debut then Fame Academy. What I have a bit of an issue with is the whole "we're different" schtick they've made such a big deal of when it's so so similar to the tired old show they're supposed to be in opposition with. And as regards the sob stories - I look forward to the episode where someone with a sad backstory turns out to be not good enough, rather than being put through to the sound of some inspirational music...
I never said you did. I should have made that clearer my apologies for that one. It's just that I've read people talking about Jessie J's credibility and it reminded me of that. It was more of an "oh yeah and another thing" general comment rather than aimed at you.
GS
The only thing it was missing was the titles. I kinda like the theme tune. It's catchy!
In that case, enjoy.
Great track - thanks for sharing!
Kinda miffed that it doesn't include the country even though it has UK in the logo...It just sounds a bit generic to me.
This is the international version (without country identifier). It says so in the title.
RtH is from Holland.
Gavin Scott
Founding member
The only thing it was missing was the titles. I kinda like the theme tune. It's catchy!
In that case, enjoy
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Great track - thanks for sharing!
Kinda miffed that it doesn't include the country even though it has UK in the logo...It just sounds a bit generic to me.
This is the international version (without country identifier). It says so in the title.
RtH is from Holland.
TR
The theme tune is incredibly naff. I'll be horrified if it appears here for the live shows, there's no tension, no suspense, it's incredibly naff. I don't think TV themes have been sung since 'Watch out, Beadles About!' and that belongs in the early 90s.
X Factor, Strictly, Who Wants To Be A Millionaire - all great theme tunes, without cheesy vocals.
The Voice theme reminds me of Fame Academy's "never stop reaching, woooah yeah, oh oh oh, reaching, to the top!"... ie DREADFUL.
X Factor, Strictly, Who Wants To Be A Millionaire - all great theme tunes, without cheesy vocals.
The Voice theme reminds me of Fame Academy's "never stop reaching, woooah yeah, oh oh oh, reaching, to the top!"... ie DREADFUL.