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The Battle-rounds have begun... (March 2012)

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A former member
This show is built around even more hype and cliché than the X Factor I feel.

The thing is, The X Factor is all about exploiting the mentally ill and the deluded. The Voice is just really positive and a celebration of talent, I feel this differentiating factor is more important than the blind audition element.

It seemed most people were hand picked and from the industry (or had been a singer in the past).

Why does it matter, they're all humans with great talent and potential to do better than they currently are. They're all usually new to the judges and the viewers. Is this not better than a set of producers putting through people they know are bad and don't stand a chance, unless they reckon they can be marketed as the next Jedward or Wagner and dumped on joke act judge Louis Walsh when it's clearly all Cowell's master plan.


Why does it matter? Because people are being tricked into thinking its all about finding 'the voice'. It's about finding an artist who will sell records, and for that, in 2012, having a great voice is not enough. People will automatically put the show in a higher category because it doesn't have Cowell and its on the BBC.
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gottago
the social media element is a great addition though.
I didn't think it was a particularly good addition at all. Every tweet he read went in one ear and out the other, viewer's comments just aren't interesting. Backstage chatter with the contestants between performances wasn't a bad idea for filler though, even if Reggie's questions were cringeworthy. Would have preferred Reggie to have had an equal role to Holly given that they've had an equal role up until this week. He's a bit better reading off an autocue than improvising with the contestants.

Overall I enjoyed it but it really was just like watching The X Factor, though the choreography wasn't anywhere near as good as it is on TXF. I was quite embarrassed for the dancers during Sam(?) Buttery's performance, the routine was awful.

How does it work tomorrow? Do the bottom two have to perform again or are they just revealed and then the judges chose which one to save?
BR
Brekkie
There is a definite difference between T.X.F. and T.V. live shows, song delivery. The X Factor seems to encourage 'putting your own spin' on a song to the point where its brutal and unrecognisable, whereas The Voice can make do with just singing it well, proven by some of the performances (the girl at the end was incredible).

If that's the case why do they keep complementing them with the usual old lines of "making the song your own" etc.

Considering Reggie had very much been an equal (if not senior) part of the presenting duo in the early rounds I was surprised to see him relegated back stage tonight - and although he has really impressed me in recent weeks (first time I've seen him do anything on TV without Fearne Cotton!) I hope they don't switch him with Holly every other week as it actually all worked rather well tonight with Holly taking the lead role.

Breaking every two to three songs for Twitter comments though is even more annoying than breaking for ads.
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Jon
Cause people are being tricked into thinking its all about finding 'the voice'. It's about finding an artist who will sell records, and for that, in 2012, having a great voice is not enough. People will automatically put the show in a higher category because it doesn't have Cowell and its on the BBC.

Well just because the show is on the BBC doesn't mean people will automatically watch it, as has been proved time and time again. I think the thing is unlike the Cowell judging army where no real personalty shines through it does on The Voice. I believe part of the appeal is that people are tired of the nastiness and silly pantomime they get from The X Factor and that craving would have never have been there if Cowell hadn't had such success in the first place.

And to be honest I don't think The Voice have really played up the whole winning a recording contract thing, in that respect it's more about just winning the show than the career.

It just feels like a fresher, nicer, more seroius and pleasant product. Whether it can maintain interest in the way X Factor has done for so long without the Cowell publicity machine, only time will tell.

I don't think The Voice should be over analysed, it's different enough to be it's own format, it's not harming people in the way X Factor must do and people are enjoying it. There is an element of farce and fakery in pretty much all TV production. The point is the public have bought into this and that's a great thing and credit shouldn't be taken away from the BBC, the production team and creators when they've put a successful and exciting production together.

Anyway, are you a millionaire yet?
Last edited by Jon on 29 April 2012 3:21am - 3 times in total
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A former member
People will put the show in a higher category - is what i said - not that people watch it because its on the BBC.

And no I'm not a millionaire Razz I've tried to get rid of it in the sig but I can't do it. So if one of the mods want to help me Confused
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Inspector Sands
Once a 'coach' has turned around they are now on in not being judged on voice alone. It becomes about age (as a lot of comments have been throughout), weight, stage presence and so on.

That's irrelevant now anyway because us viewers were always able to see the performers and we're the ones voting.
:-(
A former member
Once a 'coach' has turned around they are now on in not being judged on voice alone. It becomes about age (as a lot of comments have been throughout), weight, stage presence and so on.

That's irrelevant now anyway because us viewers were always able to see the performers and we're the ones voting.


Well if that is the case, then it is just like the X Factor. That is the point I'm trying to make. The Voice promotes itself about being about 'the voice', when it clearly is not.
BR
Brekkie
If it genuinely was all about The Voice shouldn't it be on the radio?
JO
Jon
Once a 'coach' has turned around they are now on in not being judged on voice alone. It becomes about age (as a lot of comments have been throughout), weight, stage presence and so on.

That's irrelevant now anyway because us viewers were always able to see the performers and we're the ones voting.


Well if that is the case, then it is just like the X Factor. That is the point I'm trying to make. The Voice promotes itself about being about 'the voice', when it clearly is not.


You're over thinking it, it's essentially just good theatre.
SW
SWatson7
There is a definite difference between T.X.F. and T.V. live shows, song delivery. The X Factor seems to encourage 'putting your own spin' on a song to the point where its brutal and unrecognisable, whereas The Voice can make do with just singing it well, proven by some of the performances (the girl at the end was incredible).

If that's the case why do they keep complementing them with the usual old lines of "making the song your own" etc.

Considering Reggie had very much been an equal (if not senior) part of the presenting duo in the early rounds I was surprised to see him relegated back stage tonight - and although he has really impressed me in recent weeks (first time I've seen him do anything on TV without Fearne Cotton!) I hope they don't switch him with Holly every other week as it actually all worked rather well tonight with Holly taking the lead role.

Breaking every two to three songs for Twitter comments though is even more annoying than breaking for ads.


The Voice around the globe has the same format with one main presenter and the backstage host and it was always going to be Holly as the lead host because the BBC weren't going to poach her from the sidekick role on DOI to be the sidekick role on The Voice, especially playing second fiddle to a relatively unknown presenter. Its just the same set up as Strictly really, but I do think for the live shows they could have done with a BBC3 spin off.

After not liking it so much at the start, I've really started to get into The Voice- until last night. There was definitely a spark missing and if it seriously wants to compete with X Factor then the production standards need to be much higher. I wasn't expecting it to be perfect on the first show, but it should have been a lot better than it was.
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gottago
Jesus, so much filler. Any particular reason why it's 35 mins and 30 mins?
GM
Gary McEwan
Oh this is a big cop out, didn't realise the results show was recorded. So if the show finishes at 8.30 on a Saturday its not a very long voting window if the lines close at 9pm.

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