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(January 2005)

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JO
Johnny83
I can't believe the amount of negativity this has spawned off


Ok so it is a COMEDY programme but what problem is that. It probably wasn't done in the best way but at least they bothered.

The problem with this country is people are so selfish & self involved that they don't recongnise what it happening five miles away from them let alone five thousand miles

I can't see no wrong has been done here it was unexpected, shocking & effective & has done it's job & makes a change
GM
nodnirG kraM
So in order not to be "selfish" I have to donate everything I own then?
IS
Isonstine Founding member
I'm still not sure what to make of it...

But perhaps to take a different look at things, surely the capitalism of the Western world saw the "creation" of the third world - not to get too Marxist and go on about class struggle here...but why should we be force fed this information into guilt tripping us to give money when several governments (including our own) have spent billions of pounds on an illegal war in Iraq.

I don't mind seeing the appeals, and am readily willing to get my wallet out for charity...no matter how "hard up" I may be...but appeals and programmes like this are very patronising and assume that anyone watching is a mean old ******* that wouldn't even give a second thought to those who are more needy out there. WRONG!

I think you'll find that we're quite a generous people, as has been shown (not entirely the same thing, I admit) by the massive donations to the DEC for the people of Asia.


Africa is a current and real problem, as much as, if not more than Asia...but I felt comparisons like "Dibley dying everyday" EXTREMELY patronising.

And dare I say it...they need money...but just how much? And I'd point out that many people are in poverty in this country, and the like.

It's a highly controversial issue...and is always going to be.
JA
jay Founding member
cat posted:
jay posted:
Yes, it's a bit unusual seeing that sort of thing in a comedy programme, but who is the person that defines comedy?.


Well I think we can all agree that comedy is not about making people upset.


...Except for the WI who complained about Little Britain!
IS
Isonstine Founding member
nodnirG kraM posted:
So in order not to be "selfish" I have to donate everything I own then?


Yes, we are extremely selfish but it's the society we live in, and I'm afraid the way we've been brought up. We're a rich nation, and until the government takes a SIGNIFICANT lead on the issue (which is hoped they will as they take over the G8 this year) then people will continue to be self absorbed and ignorant.

And I'm sorry but patronising appeals are not going to change this.
JF
JFC On The Web
Is Vicar of Dibley Canned Laughter?
TE
TELEVISION
JFC On The Web posted:
Is Vicar of Dibley Canned Laughter?


No, there's a studio audience.
JO
Johnny83
nodnirG kraM posted:
So in order not to be "selfish" I have to donate everything I own then?


Not at all, that's not what I am saying

It's just that I know people who would say "it doesn't concern me so I am NOT interested" but would like the same support if it happened to them.

I do donate money to charities, not a load that will make a major diffrence but I hope that it will go to the needy.

I know some people who won't even by a Poppy as they say it happend before their time.

The point it there are alot of selfish people (especially in London). I am only 21 but if I ever hold a door open for someone up the West End they are kinda surprised that I am doing so, one even commented "nice to see some people still have manners", a youth before me opended the door for himself & walked straight out of a building even though he saw the other person approaching the shop.

Sadly this country has no manners anymore.
JA
james2001 Founding member
I didn't see this show last night but listening to what people have said, from the sound of things the idea of putting a preachy charity appeal into a sitcom seems bang out of order at the best of times, but I can't beleive the BBC decided to go ahead with showing it with all that's going off.

Reading this thread though I can't beleive the attitude of some people who ar really annoyed that the whole stunt is being critisised. Why shouldn't we critisise it? Some people seem to have the idea that because it's being critisised, we must be heartless, selfish people who don't care about anything that's going off in the world, which is just not true (I've donated to the DEC- I'm sure many others on here have too). We seem to be constantally bombarded and pressured into giving money to charity and we seem to be made to feel bad if we don't give every penny we have to ever good cause going, which isn't right. And I think it's made much worse by the fact all these charity appeals seem to be made by celebs with massive personal fortunes- millions in the bank that they're never going to spend. Millions that would make a massive difference to the causes they're tying to promote. Yet they want us to give every spare penny we have to charity, and keep their bank balance high? How hypocritical.

Yes, people here have said they watcht he Vicar of Dibley to try and escape from the worlds problems and have a good laugh for a while. Does this mean we don't care about it? Of course not, but it seems some people here have the idea we don't. So it must be bad for people to try and sit down to watch a sitcom for light relief just to have a guilt trip laid on them. I doubt a single person here doesn't care about the cause TVOD was putting forward, but certinally the way it was done (and the timing- though that is not the fault of the programme makers) was poor in the extreme. I'm sure this stunt has hurt Richard Curtis's career.
AN
Andrew Founding member
james2001 posted:
I didn't see this show last night but listening to what people have said, from the sound of things the idea of putting a preachy charity appeal into a sitcom seems bang out of order at the best of times, but I can't beleive the BBC decided to go ahead with showing it with all that's going off.

Picking up on those people who say they haven't seen it. I wonder if this episode will ever get a repeat. As it seems the whole episode was some sort of one off event to get viewer's reactions I can't see it fitting very well as a repeat in 10 years time on UK Gold.

So those people who haven't seen it probably never will, except maybe during this year's Comic Relief night.
KA
Katherine Founding member
tsunami__active posted:
The point is not whether the appeal is worthy- it clearly is- but what it was doing hijacking a comedy programme.

It was really poorly done. Richard Curtis CAN do serious comedy- look at the end of Blackadder.

Agree totally.
WH
Whataday Founding member
james2001 posted:
I didn't see this show last night but...


Falling into Brasseye Special territory there.

I have not said it is wrong to criticise the programme. In fact, I criticised it myself. However, some people's reactions here have been very extreme, and inappropriate given the cause behind the appeal.

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