I'm surprised they didn't just network the itv idents with the national announcers and keep the UTV name just for UTV live. I'd prefer that over a half baked effort on keeping the UTV brand for the sake of it.
Given that there was a period when HTV News was on ITV1 Wales, they could have easily done something similar with UTV.
I have just watched something on ITV player. Where the ITV logo is meant to be, instead there is a question mark in a blue box. I wonder do UTV app and ITV player use the same stream and put the logo on? Looks like it's been messed up.
I'm surprised they didn't just network the itv idents with the national announcers and keep the UTV name just for UTV live. I'd prefer that over a half baked effort on keeping the UTV brand for the sake of it.
Given that there was a period when HTV News was on ITV1 Wales, they could have easily done something similar with UTV.
That was a bit random though and there was still no ITV plc at that point.
There's nothing dawning for the UTV side. With a quarter of the workforce sacked off, more to come, and one of ITV's henchman installed as the head of the last remaining functioning creative department, this is very much a dusk... you guys just haven't worked that out yet.
Eh? No I'm very aware it is the beginning of the end..... I've said it many times on here.... and eventually it will be the dusk of ITV when a big American company comes to gobble it up
Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if TV3's owners get ITV in a few years which would reunite the two UTV channels.
Liberty Global already own 9.9% of ITV.
... and guess what? TV3 are planning to broadcast in Northern Ireland in the future.... I was a bit confused by that until you just said that Liberty Global own 9.9% of itv.
The only way they'll be able to broadcast properly without rights headaches is if Liberty Global buy itv.... Tick... Tock.....
If that does happen, do you think that not just the UTV brand, but also ITV's, could be consigned to history, in favour of TV3? After all, the other UK main channels have number names. ITV has always been the odd one out, except when Yorkshire Tyne Tees Television did that hated Channel 3 branding in the mid 90s.
I'm surprised they didn't just network the itv idents with the national announcers and keep the UTV name just for UTV live. I'd prefer that over a half baked effort on keeping the UTV brand for the sake of it.
Given that there was a period when HTV News was on ITV1 Wales, they could have easily done something similar with UTV.
That was a bit random though and there was still no ITV plc at that point.
Exactly.
We were still somewhere along the messy road of consolidation at that point, with umpteen regional companies (and the two/three respective parent media groups thereof) involved. As there had already been no "LWT News" since 1993 and all other region names were words not initials anyway, there was no name-clash anywhere but Wales & the West. Sure, it was a less-than-ideal situation within the HTV area... But it was only ever gonna be temporary, as the inevitable Granton/Carlada merger was by that point bound to happen within a couple of years or so (and indeed did!)
An already-formed ITV plc acquiring a single solitary additional region around the time of its 12th birthday is a very different situation, and so things are sensibly being done differently.
Hasn't Ulster/UTV generally not really played the "ITV" card much/at all over the years & decades? If so, then any road to a full name change has to take into account that NI viewers may not find the network name to be "equally as familiar as the regional name" like viewers in various other regions may have done.
Before 1993, they used ITV branding about the same as any other station, though they never adopted the 1989 corporate look.
After 1993 - and especially up to 1999 - all mention of ITV on the station was effectively banned. It was "ITN" (if news) and "the network" if a reference needed to be made to ITV outside of news. Even from 1999 onwards ITV News was only mentioned as a programme name and, as previously noted, it was more often still "from the studios of ITN". After 2002, when for a while they adopted elements of ITV1's look, they were less strict about this but still preferred not to mention ITV.
One thing I've noticed from most of Julian and Gillian's announcements is how they announce as if they've taken the copy from the TV Times. Always heavy on the generalised descriptions.
Stuff like "In an hour we've the next episode of our drama about a group of fifty something's living in Manchester, that's Cold Feet tonight at 9pm"
"coming up at 7pm we've a celebrity special of The Chase, our big money quiz show in which a team of players tries to get past a quiz genius known as The Chaser"
If that does happen, do you think that not just the UTV brand, but also ITV's, could be consigned to history, in favour of TV3?
I think the chances of the ITV brand getting usurped by TV3 are zero.
Agree, ITV will never become TV3 however I wouldn't rule out the possibility of ITV selling off UTV NI to Liberty Global eventually and it then becomes TV3 instead of ITV which means it becomes an All Ireland station and it would also mean TV3 get free rein of broadcasting ITV content in Northern Ireland.
Not saying this will happen of course - but there's a chance it could if Liberty Global buys more shares in ITV and has a better grip of the market.
Last edited by mr_vivian on 18 October 2016 9:32pm
One thing I've noticed from most of Julian and Gillian's announcements is how they announce as if they've taken the copy from the TV Times. Always heavy on the generalised descriptions.
Stuff like "In an hour we've the next episode of our drama about a group of fifty something's living in Manchester, that's Cold Feet tonight at 9pm"
"coming up at 7pm we've a celebrity special of The Chase, our big money quiz show in which a team of players tries to get past a quiz genius known as The Chaser"
Sounds like whoever is writing it, likes doing generic links, borderline no creativity.
:-(
A former member
Production slide from the EY Entrepreneur of the Year programme last night...