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MMcG198
The BBC's policy on they gave Radio 1 something to think about when they held a Big Weekend there, which they sold with using"Derry-Londonderry" *


I don't believe it's BBC policy yet. And the 'Derry-Londonderry' reference for the 'Big Weekend' was part of the branding for the UK City of Culture at the time.

It's a good solution to a tricky issue.

There's a lot of inconsistency. The BBC have 'Londonderry' planted on weather maps (though Barra Best once put 'Derry' - I've not seen that again since). Local weather presenters generally refer to 'Derry' verbally (bar one, who likes to refer to 'Londonderry'). I have heard BBC network weather presenters refer verbally to 'Derry-Londonderry'. UTV has 'L'Derry' on their weather map. The 'Newsline' titles have 'Londonderry'.

For news stories, I think the general policy has been the initial reference is to 'Londonderry' and thereafter 'Derry'.

Most politicians now also refer to 'Derry-Londonderry' - including Teresa May last week in her Belfast speech.
CO
Colm
Kieron Tourish, Mark McFadden and Gareth Wilkinson usually sign-off reports with Derry, and have done since both BBC NI and UTV started doing so in 1996 - I've only heard Londonderry used in the same way when concluding a light-hearted story about the city's name.

Newsline has for a long time referred to their studio in Stroke City as their Foyle studio, as did UTV for a good few years.
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noggin Founding member
http://www.bbc.co.uk/academy/journalism/article/art20130702112133560

Quote:

Derry

The city and county are Londonderry. The city should be given the full name at first reference, but Derry can be used later. The local council is Derry City Council.


This is from the current BBC Academy Journalism style guide. I think the BBC try to make sure that both names are used in reports to balance the sensitivities though. Where a single instance is being used the Derry-Londonderry compromise is becoming widespread, but where multiple instances are used the BBC style guide advice is probably still better and less cumbersome whilst retaining respect for audiences in both communities.

HOWEVER - you need to be aware of local sensitivities - so describing a Gaelic football team as being the Londonderry team would be a real no-no.
MM
MMcG198
http://www.bbc.co.uk/academy/journalism/article/art20130702112133560

Quote:

Derry

The city and county are Londonderry. The city should be given the full name at first reference, but Derry can be used later. The local council is Derry City Council.


This is from the current BBC Academy Journalism style guide. I think the BBC try to make sure that both names are used in reports to balance the sensitivities though. Where a single instance is being used the Derry-Londonderry compromise is becoming widespread, but where multiple instances are used the BBC style guide advice is probably still better and less cumbersome whilst retaining respect for audiences in both communities.

HOWEVER - you need to be aware of local sensitivities - so describing a Gaelic football team as being the Londonderry team would be a real no-no.


The council is now Derry and Strabane District Council.

For occasions where there is only going to be one reference to the city, I agree, 'Derry-Londonderry' is definitely the preference.

And you rightly point out the inappropriateness of referencing 'Londonderry' in the context of a GAA match.
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Colm
You can say the same for another type of football.

It's not Carrickfergus Rangers...
ST
South Today
Marc Mallett seems to have disappeared for a couple of months now. So the likes of Paul Reilly are covering Paul Clark's summer holiday at the moment. Also, still off on long term sick seems to be the superb Ken Reid.
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South Today
Paul Reilly was on main presenting duty last night alongside Rose, then back for the GMB bulletins this morning. I wonder if he is going to have a long day and turn up again at 6.

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Upload TV
Complete refresh of UTV Life tonight finally getting rid of those horrific opening titles!
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Lou Scannon
Complete refresh of UTV Life tonight finally getting rid of those horrific opening titles!


I would gladly dance on the grave of that "folded ribbons" typeface. And the graves of all persons responsible for designing/selecting/approving it.
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GMc
UTV Life is keeping the old logo...

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denton
The formal news style chairs make the set look rather "cold"... sofas or comfy looking chairs would work better... but I'm guessing that there's not much room for set storage.
LS
Lou Scannon
As expected, just the View From Stormont set with different lighting etc. Are the location images on those vertical panels different? (i.e. pics of Stormont for the political show, but pics of wider Belfast/NI for the "Life" show?)

Disappointed that they didn't squeeze in some sort of armchairs or sofa/banquette, rather than those formal chairs.

Can't believe they've not ditched that sh!te font for the word "Life". It looks marginally less visually offensive in the new colour scheme, at least. Hey ho.

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