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MU
murf1000
marksi posted:
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BBC as state owned company is probably top heavy with staff and over generous in salaries like all other government departments, and so have money to waste on fine tuning things UTV dont bother about, because the viewers dont care either..


So is it your opinion that it would be ok for the BBC to not bother "fine tuning" things as "viewers don't care"? Why do ITV1 care about "fine tuning" things? Indeed would it be ok if all TV channels had the technical standards of Friendly TV?


I suggest you read what I have written mate, before you fall down of that high horse your on.
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marksi
I have read it - would you like to let us know where I have missed your point?

(Check your use of "your" and "you're" by the way...)
RD
rdd Founding member
pickle104 posted:
murf1000 posted:
marksi posted:
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How much of the south can get SKY digital? Then thats how much can get UTV as its on there.


It is indeed on Sky Digital - and is encrypted and blocked to the Republic of Ireland. Therefore unless they have a UK registered viewing card, viewers there will not be able to see it.


I meant to say Chorus Embarassed


Slightly OT, but related nonetheless: Why are BBC1&2 available on cable and MMDS via ntl and Chorus in Ireland? I read somewhere else in the forum that they're available in Holland too (or was that Denmark?). Being able to pick them up from NI or Wales or from unencrypted satellite is understandable, but they're officially available on cable and MMDS. IS the BBC paid for this? If so, is this arrangement with BBC Worldwide?

Being Irish, I'm not complaining, long may the BBC be available here. I just wonder what's up. Sorry for all the questions, I hope someone can answer them. It's something I've always wondered about.


Yes. In the case of NTL, Chorus, and Sky, royalties are paid to BBC Worldwide (and previously to BBC Enterprises) to pay for cable/MMDS/satellite carrige. So the BBC are paid a per subscriber fee for these channels (and in the case of digital cable, for BBC THREE, BBC FOUR, BBC NEWS 24 and BBC WORLD also).
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Colm
Marksi:
"Indeed would it be ok if all TV channels had the technical standards of Friendly TV?"

Not even UTV? Wink

15 days later

CR
Crusty
TV3 have less breakdowns than UTV - and I am certainly no admirer of TV3.

Rolling Eyes
MU
murf1000
GavBelfast posted:
Just as an aside ....

I was passing through Ballybofey in Sunday past and saw no less than THREE Outside Broadcast vehicles, all 'lorry' size, emblazoned with UTV livery, parked outside the GAA ground there, where Antrim were playing Donegal.

Now, UTV don't have the rights to GAA matches, so I can only assume they were hired-out to the BBC, RTE or TG4 or the like?

Unless they were over-egging it a bit for the impressive programmes that is The Nigel Carr Spot, AKA UTV Sport on Sunday.


On watching the Credits yesterday on RTEs The sunday game the words Outside Braodcast and Ulster TV are in the same Line.
PE
peterrocket Founding member
murf1000 posted:

I was passing through Ballybofey in Sunday past and saw no less than THREE Outside Broadcast vehicles, all 'lorry' size, emblazoned with UTV livery, parked outside the GAA ground there, where Antrim were playing Donegal.

Now, UTV don't have the rights to GAA matches, so I can only assume they were hired-out to the BBC, RTE or TG4 or the like?

On watching the Credits yesterday on RTEs The sunday game the words Outside Braodcast and Ulster TV are in the same Line.


They have in the past covered games for other channels, as noticed, in their new dressed up Outside Broadcast trucks.

They are starting to do more "resources" work now for some odd reason, then again if you've a truck about you may as well use it, and since it's been re-kitted in parts, hiring out at a lower rate than BBC Resources would bring in more £££

29 days later

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murf1000
Just been reading today in the new gaa newspaper "the game" that "end to end" on UTV pulls in 200,000 viewers.
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GavBelfast
I really can't think why. Is watching it compulsory to the "fraternity"?
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Colm
Nothing to do with "fraternities", Gav.

It's been proven that GAA games is a more popular sport in Northern Ireland with higher support and match attendance than the FAI League and other sports, hence a series discussing the most popular sport will achieve high viewer ratings. And given the fact Ulster teams (the Six Counties including Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan before any fights start) have dominated the game in the past few years (thanks back door system!) hence deepening interest in the GAA and an interest in the build up/outcomes of each weekend's games.

Also, "End to End" fills a loophole for viewers in Northern Ireland who are unable to watch RTE's "Sunday Game", "Breaking Ball" and other GAA programmes. It complements BBC's "The Championship" well, despite being on the other channel, and like anything UTV seem to be involved in these days, has cross-Border appeal.

I have to say, "End to End"'s ratings are very high for a regional programme at an 11pm time slot.

Then again, there isn't a comparative magazine programme about the FAI League, or other sports in Northern Ireland, to compare against in the ratings.

Or maybe all the viewers of "End to End" are brainwashed members of the Frank Mitchell Masons explaining the prolonged existence of "School Around The Corner" in the UTV schedules Smile
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GavBelfast
Col, I was merely wondering do the GAA "fraternity" regard it as a must-see.

With little or no action and all the ingredients of a chummy get-together in a pub with no beer, I just find it as dull as dishwater.

I'm hoping for good things from this new BBC NI sports magazine programme, though they have tried things similar before ('The BackPage', and another 'Sports ....' something where the names escapes me) and they didn't last.

I quite liked 'Choice Sport' myself, as it was quite simple and highlights orientated rather than cliquey jaw-jaw like 'End to End', but they didn't so much scrap that as the channel itself!
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Colm
Gav:
"Col, I was merely wondering do the GAA "fraternity" regard it as a must-see."

They probably do, Gav. Any friends and family I have involved in the GAA watch "End to End" every week.

"With little or no action and all the ingredients of a chummy get-together in a pub with no beer, I just find it as dull as dishwater."

But they can't be seen drinking beer in the studio! Representatives of UTV and the GAA must be seen to promote a good example especially given the criticism of minor players for going on the razz the night before important games.

Also, given UTV don't have the rights to GAA footage, and usually only show their own material featuring interviews etc, they have to make the most of what they have got.

"I'm hoping for good things from this new BBC NI sports magazine programme, though they have tried things similar before ('The BackPage', and another 'Sports ....' something where the names escapes me) and they didn't last."

There was "The Club" with Mark Robson and Denise Watson, wasn't it on a Sunday night?

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