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UKTV Split terms agreed

BBC keep Seven, Discovery get Good Food, Home and Really. (April 2019)

JA
james-2001 Central (East) East Midlands Today
I wonder how much Disney can tolerate the show which has been accused of fakery?

I think somebody needs to have a conversation with you about Mickey Mouse.


He's not fake, I saw him when I went to disneyland Sad
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A former member
I wonder if Most Haunted will get the chop under Really TV's new owners. The paranormal programme used to be a hit for what was called Living TV. Then in 2010 when Sky bought the channel, it axed Most Haunted fast. Now with new owners, I wonder how much Disney can tolerate the show which has been accused of fakery?


Until this post I wasn't aware that Most Haunted was still on-air (or that it had moved). I do find it most amusing that a show, accused of fakery, is airing on a channel called Real ly


If they decide to rebrand Good Food, they could always go with The Cooking Channel, which they majority own in the USA. It all probably depends on how keen they are to use the same brands around the world, as they could change Home to HGTV also.


They may decide to close it and merge it with Food Network.


As Good Food is a well known brand in the UK, it would not surprise me if they chose to license the brand from the BBC. Then either merge Food Network into it or rebrand it into a sister channel like "Good Food Abroad" (with non-UK based cookery shows).

With the other Good Food outlets operated by the BBC directly still running, it would make it an attractive collaboration for both parties I would think...


Small problem, Good food is paywalled..
FG
FraserGJ Wales Wales Today
Small problem, Good food is paywalled..


True... but is that not the case right now?

There is already a connection between the main brand and the TV channel - UKTVs Good Food website and the main BBC Good Food site link to each other for example.

I would think it would be a good idea to retain the more well known Good Food brand (and potentially extending it to Food Network via a rebranding).
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A former member
Whats the case? Good food is paywalled and FN is on freeview?
CA
Cando London London
Good Food is Rick Stein, River Cottage etc Mostly aimed at an upmarket audience.
With a few exceptions outside of peak time, Food Network is mostly tawdry reality shows and Man v Food style programmes.
They've too different audiences. I just don't see why they'd want to merger them.
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PF
PFMC84 UTV Newsline
We have enough fragmented channels and programming diluting the market. We don't need a channel to cater to 'upmarket' cooking and another for 'downmarket' cooking. I'd say the two channels will be merged into one food/cooking brand for the UK market.
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NG
noggin Founding member
We have enough fragmented channels and programming diluting the market. We don't need a channel to cater to 'upmarket' cooking and another for 'downmarket' cooking. I'd say the two channels will be merged into one food/cooking brand for the UK market.


I guess that will very much depend on the analysis of advertising demographics and advertisement revenue generation + subscription income from the two existing services vs the cost of running two services (and commissioning/acquiring content for them both) rather than a single service. The two services are very different currently and presumably cater to significantly different audiences.

There may be perfectly viable business arguments for continuing with two services, or there may be a strong argument for merging them. I suspect unless people here have access to detailed financial breakdowns of the two services we aren't really able to make a particularly informed comment.
WH
Whataday Founding member Wales Wales Today
Interestingly there's only a short term content agreement in place between BBC Studios and the UKTV lifestyle channels as part of this deal. The longer deal between BBC Studios and Discovery is for the new on demand service. To me that suggests there are significant changes in store for Good Food, Really and Home.
RD
rdd Founding member
It suggests to me that Discovery was more interested in the EPG slots than access to the content.
NW
nwtv2003 Granada North West Today
rdd posted:
It suggests to me that Discovery was more interested in the EPG slots than access to the content.


Prior to the deal being agreed, there was a rumour circulating online that Discovery was going to be offered LCN 012 on Freeview for Quest, but that doesn’t seem to have materialised.

Good Food has a semi decent position on the Sky EPG, I think it’s Discovery’s second highest spot on Sky.
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DV
DVB Cornwall West Country (West) Spotlight
Ofcom have cleared the split and will not be investigating it. The whole deal should be finalised rapidly now.
BR
Brekkie Wales Wales Today
Well when have OFCOM ever not greenlit something, although really can't see any grounds for objection in this case, although it is a bit of a shame.
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