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Could UKTV be scrapped?

To allow concentration on a Netflix rival... (September 2018)

JA
james-2001 Central (East) East Midlands Today
Put Going Live up, I could watch Double Dare and Trev & Simon for hours :p
RT
Rich Tea Anglia (West) Look East
Is there much demand though for archive content on demand . Although it is there Netflix and Amazon have only grown to what they are today thanks to original content.


Funny you should ask this. Only last week I registered with the Drama Channel in order to use their On Demand service. The one and only reason for me doing this was to watch the final autumn 1985 series of Juliet Bravo that they recently showed and I didn't see as broadcast due to the fact they idiotically stopped showing the repeated late night viewing they had been doing with previous series earlier this summer when broadcasting the entire 1980-85 run of all six series.

The BBC should be placing far more of their archive onto a "BBC archive on demand" type service than they are doing.

James, you mentioned Trevor & Simon, and although I'm the Swap Shop/Saturday Superstore generation I listened to Trev & Simon as guests on the great Richard Herring's Leicester Square Podcast last weekend and it was an enjoyable hour that you might just wish to check out yourself if you are a big fan.

https://www.comedy.co.uk/podcasts/richard_herring_lst_podcast/rhlstp_169_trev_and_simon/
Last edited by Rich Tea on 17 September 2018 12:48am
JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
Not the first time they've done that! Their Life on Mars repeats ended with Ashes to Ashes series 2, and that was ONLY on the late night slot, so they missed the final season completely.

14 days later

:-(
A former member
https://www.a516digital.com/2018/09/uktv-deal-could-lead-to-6040-split.html

Quote:

A fortnight after a possible split was first reported, a deal could involve a 60:40 break-up of the broadcaster.

Under the potential deal between UKTV's two shareholders, BBC Studios and Discovery, the BBC would pay Discovery £100million in return for securing 60% of UKTV's assets, including TV channels Dave, Drama and Gold, with Discovery taking the remaining 40% and lifestyle channels including Good Food and Home.

That's according to a report in The Times, citing sources close to the broadcaster (paywall, or 29/09/2018 print edition).

The BBC and Discovery currently have a 50:50 share of the broadcaster, which is valued at £1billion. While any payment would leave the BBC open to criticism, the revenue from the channels are expected to cancel out the cost within a year and pave the way for future income for its commercial arm BBC Studios.

As initially reported by The Guardian on 16th September, the break-up of UKTV would help pave the way for the creation of a British rival to Netflix, backed by the main public service broadcasters, as some of the anomalies over broadcasting rights would be resolved - some BBC programmes are licensed for broadcast on UKTV linear channels, while on-demand rights lie elsewhere.

UKTV has its origins in UK Gold, launched in 1992 showing programmes from the BBC and Thames Television archives. UKTV in its current multi-channel form began life in 1997, with the arrival of a four-channel, multi-genre service that later grew to encompass ten channels, half of them available as free-to-air channels.

Any deal would have to be approved by the board of the BBC.

The BBC, Discovery and UKTV have remained tight-lipped over the reports.


Thread link to that other buy out is here:
https://tvforum.uk/tvhome/discovery-buys-scripps-42839/page-5#post-1103151
JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
So the BBC would get Dave, Drama, Gold, Alibi, W, and Really, and Discovery would get Good Food, Home, Eden, and Yesterday?
BR
Brekkie Wales Wales Today
If that is the case it's a good deal for the BBC as surely their 6 channels bring in more revenue than the 4 Discovery are taking.
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
NW
nwtv2003 Granada North West Today
JAS84 posted:
So the BBC would get Dave, Drama, Gold, Alibi, W, and Really, and Discovery would get Good Food, Home, Eden, and Yesterday?


That would make the most sense, I’d be quite surprised if they were allowed to keep the Good Food name unless the BBC sub licenced this to Discovery. Surely there’d be some agreement with content too? As there’s no value to Discovery taking on its share of the UKTV channels with no BBC content. Whilst repeats of lifestyle programmes would probably end up on a Discovery service, the likes of Planet Earth, or anything that would fall under ‘BBC Earth’ would certainly be of value to the BBC’s streaming service once it gets going.

Another point is that Discovery will get a further two and lucrative Freeview slots, in addition to the ones inherited from Scripps.
steve
steviegTVreturns
IS
Inspector Sands
There's a lot of crossover between the channels Discovery would get and the ones they already own, I wonder how many and which would survive
ZE
zeebre12
So if Discovery get the lifestyle channels do Discovery decide the content for them? Don't old BBC comedies air on Yesterday.
Do Discovery get the BBC content like is now or are they just really buying the channel slots? They'd hardly need Food Network and Good Food?
KE
kernow
If Good Food, Home, Eden, and Yesterday went to Discovery, I can't see them staying as they are, as there's too much overlap with existing Discovery channels (Food Network, Discovery Home and Health, Animal Planet and Discovery History), so as already mentioned, there would probably be more value in the slots and programming rights, which could be transferred to existing Discovery channels.
LL
London Lite Founding member London London
There's a nice high Freeview EPG number there courtesy of Yesterday which I wouldn't be surprised to see swap with Quest.
ZE
zeebre12
If Good Food, Home, Eden, and Yesterday went to Discovery, I can't see them staying as they are, as there's too much overlap with existing Discovery channels (Food Network, Discovery Home and Health, Animal Planet and Discovery History), so as already mentioned, there would probably be more value in the slots and programming rights, which could be transferred to existing Discovery channels.

So if there was a deal to break up UKTV Discovery would also acquire the BBC lifestyle/nature shows? But what else could they use the channel slots for or what broadcaster would buy them? Discovery have to many channels in the UK as it is.

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