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UKTV used to be played out from TV Centre, latlerly transferred to the Broadcast Centre
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The affected programmes are BBC programmes which didn't have commercials originally and have been re-edited into separate parts. As these tapes were decdicated UKTV copies, they put their own caption boards on.
This practice eventually stopped in May 2001 in favour of 'live' pres graphics to mark an end/start of part, but any edits made up until that time will have a 'burnt on' caption. They try to cover it up now, but obviously sometimes they will slip through.
At least in this case the branding still referred to the right channel, sometimes you get old UK Gold captions popping up on UK Drama.
The 'press red' graphics on the UKTV channels are generated by the box itself. Therefore they will stay on screen as long as UKTV keep sending them irrespective of what is being broadcast.
cwathen
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It gives the impression the old caption was burned onto that copy of the episode - intended to be cut away from before shown, possibly - but I'm not sure what the reasoning behind that would be as it seems a rather odd move (especially if it applies to various other progs) so it might well be some cause else...Any ideas?
The affected programmes are BBC programmes which didn't have commercials originally and have been re-edited into separate parts. As these tapes were decdicated UKTV copies, they put their own caption boards on.
This practice eventually stopped in May 2001 in favour of 'live' pres graphics to mark an end/start of part, but any edits made up until that time will have a 'burnt on' caption. They try to cover it up now, but obviously sometimes they will slip through.
At least in this case the branding still referred to the right channel, sometimes you get old UK Gold captions popping up on UK Drama.
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Oddly the red button prompt still knows there should be a break there though and pops up.
The 'press red' graphics on the UKTV channels are generated by the box itself. Therefore they will stay on screen as long as UKTV keep sending them irrespective of what is being broadcast.
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The 'press red' graphics on the UKTV channels are generated by the box itself. Therefore they will stay on screen as long as UKTV keep sending them irrespective of what is being broadcast.
This is wrong. Don't you watch UKTV channels? The red dot won't appear during adverts and (the last time I watched a UKTV channel) I think it gets resent at the start and end of each part of a programme, so if you have the red dot set to time out after 30 seconds (or maybe even if you don't, I'm not sure) it will come on for 30 seconds at the start of a show, 30 seconds before the end of part 1, seconds at the start of part 2
cwathen posted:
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Oddly the red button prompt still knows there should be a break there though and pops up.
The 'press red' graphics on the UKTV channels are generated by the box itself. Therefore they will stay on screen as long as UKTV keep sending them irrespective of what is being broadcast.
This is wrong. Don't you watch UKTV channels? The red dot won't appear during adverts and (the last time I watched a UKTV channel) I think it gets resent at the start and end of each part of a programme, so if you have the red dot set to time out after 30 seconds (or maybe even if you don't, I'm not sure) it will come on for 30 seconds at the start of a show, 30 seconds before the end of part 1, seconds at the start of part 2
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It's not wrong - the press red DOG disappears during adverts because it is set to - it is *not* part of the video broadcast. You can make it disappear on demand at any time by pressing backup. How do you explain this if it's part of the broadcast? How also do you explain it being 'retrofitted' to a slide which is over 6 years old?
Along with almost all press red graphics, it's an overlay generated by the box.
cwathen
Founding member
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This is wrong. Don't you watch UKTV channels? The red dot won't appear during adverts and (the last time I watched a UKTV channel) I think it gets resent at the start and end of each part of a programme, so if you have the red dot set to time out after 30 seconds (or maybe even if you don't, I'm not sure) it will come on for 30 seconds at the start of a show, 30 seconds before the end of part 1, seconds at the start of part 2
It's not wrong - the press red DOG disappears during adverts because it is set to - it is *not* part of the video broadcast. You can make it disappear on demand at any time by pressing backup. How do you explain this if it's part of the broadcast? How also do you explain it being 'retrofitted' to a slide which is over 6 years old?
Along with almost all press red graphics, it's an overlay generated by the box.
HA
It's not wrong - the press red DOG disappears during adverts because it is set to - it is *not* part of the video broadcast. You can make it disappear on demand at any time by pressing backup. How do you explain this if it's part of the broadcast? How also do you explain it being 'retrofitted' to a slide which is over 6 years old?
Along with almost all press red graphics, it's an overlay generated by the box.
except with a non Sky box 
harshy
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cwathen posted:
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This is wrong. Don't you watch UKTV channels? The red dot won't appear during adverts and (the last time I watched a UKTV channel) I think it gets resent at the start and end of each part of a programme, so if you have the red dot set to time out after 30 seconds (or maybe even if you don't, I'm not sure) it will come on for 30 seconds at the start of a show, 30 seconds before the end of part 1, seconds at the start of part 2
It's not wrong - the press red DOG disappears during adverts because it is set to - it is *not* part of the video broadcast. You can make it disappear on demand at any time by pressing backup. How do you explain this if it's part of the broadcast? How also do you explain it being 'retrofitted' to a slide which is over 6 years old?
Along with almost all press red graphics, it's an overlay generated by the box.
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Hit green with a Freeview box, blue with a Virgin box, they go bye-bye.
This only works on freeview on the BBC channels, though (but not on 301 or 302)
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harshy posted:
except with a non Sky box
Hit green with a Freeview box, blue with a Virgin box, they go bye-bye.
This only works on freeview on the BBC channels, though (but not on 301 or 302)
IS
Hit green with a Freeview box, blue with a Virgin box, they go bye-bye.
Blue on my Virgin box activates the subtitles.... so you'll lose the red dot but gain subtitles.
Not that UKTV's red button thing is broadcast on cable (which is odd when you consider the link betweeen them and Virgin
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harshy posted:
except with a non Sky box
Hit green with a Freeview box, blue with a Virgin box, they go bye-bye.
Blue on my Virgin box activates the subtitles.... so you'll lose the red dot but gain subtitles.
Not that UKTV's red button thing is broadcast on cable (which is odd when you consider the link betweeen them and Virgin