JA
I read somewhere Virgin are withdrawing all non-Tivo boxes from service- I imagine this will allow them to close down SD simulcasts and open more capacity?
JK
Can you not pick up at least Drama on Freeview where you are?
Not every part of the UK is served by the full freeview service. Millions have to make do with freeview lite, which is utter crap. Pot luck draw of your location. I can pick up the full freeview line up, but my uncle who lives 2 miles away has to make do with jsut freeview lite due to his location.
Really missed Gold and Drama tonight - they was nothing on and my dad went into a tirade because of it. Would have probably been something on one of those channels.
Can you not pick up at least Drama on Freeview where you are?
Not every part of the UK is served by the full freeview service. Millions have to make do with freeview lite, which is utter crap. Pot luck draw of your location. I can pick up the full freeview line up, but my uncle who lives 2 miles away has to make do with jsut freeview lite due to his location.
BB
Can you not pick up at least Drama on Freeview where you are?
Not every part of the UK is served by the full freeview service. Millions have to make do with freeview lite , which is utter crap. Pot luck draw of your location. I can pick up the full freeview line up, but my uncle who lives 2 miles away has to make do with jsut freeview lite due to his location.
They/we don't have to make do, but for many it is too expensive or impractical to get any other service.
I do agree though that it is crap, and it is also a postcode lottery. Where I live (in the TV reception hellhole that is Derbyshire) if you are at the bottom of the hill, you get Freeview Lite. If you live up the hill, you can get a full Freeview service, but from the West Midlands (so if you care about the local news, it's Freeview Lite for you). Finally, if you live over the hill you get a full service, but from Yorkshire.
Really missed Gold and Drama tonight - they was nothing on and my dad went into a tirade because of it. Would have probably been something on one of those channels.
Can you not pick up at least Drama on Freeview where you are?
Not every part of the UK is served by the full freeview service. Millions have to make do with freeview lite , which is utter crap. Pot luck draw of your location. I can pick up the full freeview line up, but my uncle who lives 2 miles away has to make do with jsut freeview lite due to his location.
They/we don't have to make do, but for many it is too expensive or impractical to get any other service.
I do agree though that it is crap, and it is also a postcode lottery. Where I live (in the TV reception hellhole that is Derbyshire) if you are at the bottom of the hill, you get Freeview Lite. If you live up the hill, you can get a full Freeview service, but from the West Midlands (so if you care about the local news, it's Freeview Lite for you). Finally, if you live over the hill you get a full service, but from Yorkshire.
ST
I didn't think they had a 'capacity' issue on a fibre network?
I read somewhere Virgin are withdrawing all non-Tivo boxes from service- I imagine this will allow them to close down SD simulcasts and open more capacity?
I didn't think they had a 'capacity' issue on a fibre network?
JK
Not every part of the UK is served by the full freeview service. Millions have to make do with freeview lite , which is utter crap. Pot luck draw of your location. I can pick up the full freeview line up, but my uncle who lives 2 miles away has to make do with jsut freeview lite due to his location.
They/we don't have to make do, but for many it is too expensive or impractical to get any other service.
I do agree though that it is crap, and it is also a postcode lottery. Where I live (in the TV reception hellhole that is Derbyshire) if you are at the bottom of the hill, you get Freeview Lite. If you live up the hill, you can get a full Freeview service, but from the West Midlands (so if you care about the local news, it's Freeview Lite for you). Finally, if you live over the hill you get a full service, but from Yorkshire.
I meant that many would love the freeview but can only get freeview lite.
Can you not pick up at least Drama on Freeview where you are?
Not every part of the UK is served by the full freeview service. Millions have to make do with freeview lite , which is utter crap. Pot luck draw of your location. I can pick up the full freeview line up, but my uncle who lives 2 miles away has to make do with jsut freeview lite due to his location.
They/we don't have to make do, but for many it is too expensive or impractical to get any other service.
I do agree though that it is crap, and it is also a postcode lottery. Where I live (in the TV reception hellhole that is Derbyshire) if you are at the bottom of the hill, you get Freeview Lite. If you live up the hill, you can get a full Freeview service, but from the West Midlands (so if you care about the local news, it's Freeview Lite for you). Finally, if you live over the hill you get a full service, but from Yorkshire.
I meant that many would love the freeview but can only get freeview lite.
BR
Can you not pick up at least Drama on Freeview where you are?
Not every part of the UK is served by the full freeview service. Millions have to make do with freeview lite, which is utter crap. Pot luck draw of your location. I can pick up the full freeview line up, but my uncle who lives 2 miles away has to make do with jsut freeview lite due to his location.
I'd have thought that anywhere urban enough to have cable isn't likely to be rural enough to only receive Freeview Lite channels.
Really missed Gold and Drama tonight - they was nothing on and my dad went into a tirade because of it. Would have probably been something on one of those channels.
Can you not pick up at least Drama on Freeview where you are?
Not every part of the UK is served by the full freeview service. Millions have to make do with freeview lite, which is utter crap. Pot luck draw of your location. I can pick up the full freeview line up, but my uncle who lives 2 miles away has to make do with jsut freeview lite due to his location.
I'd have thought that anywhere urban enough to have cable isn't likely to be rural enough to only receive Freeview Lite channels.
BM
BM11
We dont have an aieral - havent for years and due to a neighbour dispute we dont want to do any building work which could set him at the moment.
CI
Not every part of the UK is served by the full freeview service. Millions have to make do with freeview lite, which is utter crap. Pot luck draw of your location. I can pick up the full freeview line up, but my uncle who lives 2 miles away has to make do with jsut freeview lite due to his location.
I'd have thought that anywhere urban enough to have cable isn't likely to be rural enough to only receive Freeview Lite channels.
If I remember correctly, the Freeview Lite situation has more to do with geography of where relays are, and the relays don't have enough frequency clearance to have all the multiplexes. Being rural or urban doesn't really have anything to do with that.
Can you not pick up at least Drama on Freeview where you are?
Not every part of the UK is served by the full freeview service. Millions have to make do with freeview lite, which is utter crap. Pot luck draw of your location. I can pick up the full freeview line up, but my uncle who lives 2 miles away has to make do with jsut freeview lite due to his location.
I'd have thought that anywhere urban enough to have cable isn't likely to be rural enough to only receive Freeview Lite channels.
If I remember correctly, the Freeview Lite situation has more to do with geography of where relays are, and the relays don't have enough frequency clearance to have all the multiplexes. Being rural or urban doesn't really have anything to do with that.
CI
I have an internal aerial, and I'm able to pick up all 8 multiplexes. If you can get an internal aerial set up correctly, it shouldn't be that much of an issue.
We dont have an aieral - havent for years and due to a neighbour dispute we dont want to do any building work which could set him at the moment.
I have an internal aerial, and I'm able to pick up all 8 multiplexes. If you can get an internal aerial set up correctly, it shouldn't be that much of an issue.
LL
London Lite
Founding member
If you can find a Telecam-Indoor-TV-Aerial-TCE-2000-LTE from eBay. These are the best indoor aerials I've ever used. Got two of these as they're that good.
JM
JamesM0984
My aerial (been there since build in 1997, moved in 2016) is in the loft. No idea how it handled analogue but Freeview is no issue.
The Freeview Life thing is awful - as a die hard Eurovision fan I'd be pretty peeved at having to watch the semis in SD (they're ghettoised on BBC Four) for example, although there you do have the World feed on YouTube in 1080p and if you can actually stand the dodgy cutaways, iPlayer.
The Freeview Life thing is awful - as a die hard Eurovision fan I'd be pretty peeved at having to watch the semis in SD (they're ghettoised on BBC Four) for example, although there you do have the World feed on YouTube in 1080p and if you can actually stand the dodgy cutaways, iPlayer.
JA
According to this article, UKTV are losing a million a week in lost ad revenue, and prime time audiences for Dave and Gold fell by a fifth, and Eden by a third!
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/aug/05/viewers-turn-to-freeview-after-virgin-media-uktv-dispute
I'm sure it must be in UKTV's interest to get the channels back as much as Virgin. After all, the viewers who haven't moved over to Sky or Freeview may get out of the habit and not come back even if the channels do, especially the longer they stay off. If even Dave, which is on Freeview (and suggests Virgin viewers aren't making the effort to watch Dave on there), can lose a fifth of its viewers because of this, that's a BIG hit to UKTV. Surely it could get to the stage where at least getting some money from Virgin (and the ad revenue that comes with it) will be better than getting none, even if they do take a big cut.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/aug/05/viewers-turn-to-freeview-after-virgin-media-uktv-dispute
I'm sure it must be in UKTV's interest to get the channels back as much as Virgin. After all, the viewers who haven't moved over to Sky or Freeview may get out of the habit and not come back even if the channels do, especially the longer they stay off. If even Dave, which is on Freeview (and suggests Virgin viewers aren't making the effort to watch Dave on there), can lose a fifth of its viewers because of this, that's a BIG hit to UKTV. Surely it could get to the stage where at least getting some money from Virgin (and the ad revenue that comes with it) will be better than getting none, even if they do take a big cut.
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