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A former member
Where is Richard Branson when you need him?
Nowt to do with him.
Nowt to do with him.
HC
Nowt to do with him.
Correct. Sir Dickie's only involvement with VM is to bank the annual licence fee cheque that Liberty Media pay the Virgin group to use the Virgin brand name and scrawl logo...
..and anyway, I don't think he can pick up the UKTV channels on Necker Island in the British Virgin Islands (no relation) where he lives in tax exile.
Where is Richard Branson when you need him?
Nowt to do with him.
Correct. Sir Dickie's only involvement with VM is to bank the annual licence fee cheque that Liberty Media pay the Virgin group to use the Virgin brand name and scrawl logo...
..and anyway, I don't think he can pick up the UKTV channels on Necker Island in the British Virgin Islands (no relation) where he lives in tax exile.
AN
He doesn’t seem to mind one of his brands suing the NHS...
To be fair, he might be minded to step in if the PR begins to reflect badly on the wider Virgin brand.
He doesn’t seem to mind one of his brands suing the NHS...
JA
I don't think there's any chance there's not going to be a deal eventually. Its going to hurt Virgin and UKTV too much for there not to be, they both stand to lose a lot of money and viewers over it. Virgin need the channels because they know customers will go elsewhere without them, and UKTV need the carraige fees and ad revenue from Virgin. It's just a question of how long it takes for them to bang their heads together and come up with something and how long we'll be without the channels... the chances of an 11th hour deal are fading rapidly.
JK
Nowt to do with him.
Correct. Sir Dickie's only involvement with VM is to bank the annual licence fee cheque that Liberty Media pay the Virgin group to use the Virgin brand name and scrawl logo...
..and anyway, I don't think he can pick up the UKTV channels on Necker Island in the British Virgin Islands (no relation) where he lives in tax exile.
It was a joke, I know he has sod all to do with it, like every venture of his business empire.
Where is Richard Branson when you need him?
Nowt to do with him.
Correct. Sir Dickie's only involvement with VM is to bank the annual licence fee cheque that Liberty Media pay the Virgin group to use the Virgin brand name and scrawl logo...
..and anyway, I don't think he can pick up the UKTV channels on Necker Island in the British Virgin Islands (no relation) where he lives in tax exile.
It was a joke, I know he has sod all to do with it, like every venture of his business empire.
NW
It was about 18 months before the Sky channels reappeared on Virgin wasn’t it? Hopefully for Virgin Media viewers it’ll be sooner.
I grew up with Cable, and I have had Sky for the last few years (no cable in my area, nor do they intend to cable) and the TV from Sky has been far superior, I miss the broadband though. But I get how annoyed VM customers are going to be, you lose the entire UKTV portfolio, you gain a load of FTA services that don’t offer anything special, and you still have no Sky Atlantic seven years later.
I don't think there's any chance there's not going to be a deal eventually. Its going to hurt Virgin and UKTV too much for there not to be, they both stand to lose a lot of money and viewers over it. Virgin need the channels because they know customers will go elsewhere without them, and UKTV need the carraige fees and ad revenue from Virgin. It's just a question of how long it takes for them to bang their heads together and come up with something and how long we'll be without the channels... the chances of an 11th hour deal are fading rapidly.
It was about 18 months before the Sky channels reappeared on Virgin wasn’t it? Hopefully for Virgin Media viewers it’ll be sooner.
I grew up with Cable, and I have had Sky for the last few years (no cable in my area, nor do they intend to cable) and the TV from Sky has been far superior, I miss the broadband though. But I get how annoyed VM customers are going to be, you lose the entire UKTV portfolio, you gain a load of FTA services that don’t offer anything special, and you still have no Sky Atlantic seven years later.
BM
BM11
Virgin having to try and spin it with the new channels shows they expect quite a few cancellations.
JA
Though Sky can probably weather such a thing better, they have a lot more money in the bank than UKTV do, which probably helps how they stayed off for 18 months. Plus Sky weren't investing anywhere near as much in their channels as they are now- I think the main home produced programme they were using in their adverts to try and get Virgin customers to switch was The Hogfather- and even that was a repeat. And Virgin had Lost, which was probably Sky's biggest import at the time, on demand too, which helped soften the blow. There weren't as many channels going walkies either back then, I think it was only Sky One/Two, News and Sports News we lost.
UKTV have said they couldn't continue doing what they're doing with the money Virgin are offering them- but with no deal from Virgin they're surely going to be even worse off? Which is why there's likely to be a deal in the near future. Even with the large number of people that will switch to keep the channels, there's going to be plenty who don't move and UKTV will lose a lot of ad revenue from them.
And with Sky Atlantic, isn't it the case that Sky refuse to offer the channel to Virgin full stop? So that one at least isn't Virgin's fault.
UKTV have said they couldn't continue doing what they're doing with the money Virgin are offering them- but with no deal from Virgin they're surely going to be even worse off? Which is why there's likely to be a deal in the near future. Even with the large number of people that will switch to keep the channels, there's going to be plenty who don't move and UKTV will lose a lot of ad revenue from them.
And with Sky Atlantic, isn't it the case that Sky refuse to offer the channel to Virgin full stop? So that one at least isn't Virgin's fault.
WO
I did read a rumour on the other forum claiming that Sky Atlantic is set to launch on Virgin early next year. Whether that rumour has any substance to it, I have no clue, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
Though Sky can probably weather such a thing better, they have a lot more money in the bank than UKTV do, which probably helps how they stayed off for 18 months. Plus Sky weren't investing anywhere near as much in their channels as they are now- I think the main home produced programme they were using in their adverts to try and get Virgin customers to switch was The Hogfather- and even that was a repeat. And Virgin had Lost, which was probably Sky's biggest import at the time, on demand too, which helped soften the blow. There weren't as many channels going walkies either back then, I think it was only Sky One/Two, News and Sports News we lost.
UKTV have said they couldn't continue doing what they're doing with the money Virgin are offering them- but with no deal from Virgin they're surely going to be even worse off? Which is why there's likely to be a deal in the near future. Even with the large number of people that will switch to keep the channels, there's going to be plenty who don't move and UKTV will lose a lot of ad revenue from them.
And with Sky Atlantic, isn't it the case that Sky refuse to offer the channel to Virgin full stop? So that one at least isn't Virgin's fault.
UKTV have said they couldn't continue doing what they're doing with the money Virgin are offering them- but with no deal from Virgin they're surely going to be even worse off? Which is why there's likely to be a deal in the near future. Even with the large number of people that will switch to keep the channels, there's going to be plenty who don't move and UKTV will lose a lot of ad revenue from them.
And with Sky Atlantic, isn't it the case that Sky refuse to offer the channel to Virgin full stop? So that one at least isn't Virgin's fault.
I did read a rumour on the other forum claiming that Sky Atlantic is set to launch on Virgin early next year. Whether that rumour has any substance to it, I have no clue, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
LL
I did read a rumour on the other forum claiming that Sky Atlantic is set to launch on Virgin early next year. Whether that rumour has any substance to it, I have no clue, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
If it's 'that' forum, it's usually complete nonsense.
London Lite
Founding member
Though Sky can probably weather such a thing better, they have a lot more money in the bank than UKTV do, which probably helps how they stayed off for 18 months. Plus Sky weren't investing anywhere near as much in their channels as they are now- I think the main home produced programme they were using in their adverts to try and get Virgin customers to switch was The Hogfather- and even that was a repeat. And Virgin had Lost, which was probably Sky's biggest import at the time, on demand too, which helped soften the blow. There weren't as many channels going walkies either back then, I think it was only Sky One/Two, News and Sports News we lost.
UKTV have said they couldn't continue doing what they're doing with the money Virgin are offering them- but with no deal from Virgin they're surely going to be even worse off? Which is why there's likely to be a deal in the near future. Even with the large number of people that will switch to keep the channels, there's going to be plenty who don't move and UKTV will lose a lot of ad revenue from them.
And with Sky Atlantic, isn't it the case that Sky refuse to offer the channel to Virgin full stop? So that one at least isn't Virgin's fault.
UKTV have said they couldn't continue doing what they're doing with the money Virgin are offering them- but with no deal from Virgin they're surely going to be even worse off? Which is why there's likely to be a deal in the near future. Even with the large number of people that will switch to keep the channels, there's going to be plenty who don't move and UKTV will lose a lot of ad revenue from them.
And with Sky Atlantic, isn't it the case that Sky refuse to offer the channel to Virgin full stop? So that one at least isn't Virgin's fault.
I did read a rumour on the other forum claiming that Sky Atlantic is set to launch on Virgin early next year. Whether that rumour has any substance to it, I have no clue, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
If it's 'that' forum, it's usually complete nonsense.