NW
It was more of a case that the Turkish were too unreliable and would provide poor coverage, so they got us Brits to do it...
Apparently UEFA didn't allow ITV to host tonight's coverage because of the Goal Line Error in the Liverpool/Chelsea match a few weeks ago. UEFA weren't best pleased apparently.
Any news on the TV Rights for the Champions League next season? As they're up for renewal and it's set to stay the same as it is now, with ITV and Sky sharing the rights.
edward posted:
fusionlad posted:
Sky Sports were the host broadcasters for tonights final apparently.
No doubt it would have been 4:3 coverage if the Turkish broadcasters were allowed to cover it.
No doubt it would have been 4:3 coverage if the Turkish broadcasters were allowed to cover it.
It was more of a case that the Turkish were too unreliable and would provide poor coverage, so they got us Brits to do it...
Apparently UEFA didn't allow ITV to host tonight's coverage because of the Goal Line Error in the Liverpool/Chelsea match a few weeks ago. UEFA weren't best pleased apparently.
Any news on the TV Rights for the Champions League next season? As they're up for renewal and it's set to stay the same as it is now, with ITV and Sky sharing the rights.
AN
It was more of a case that the Turkish were too unreliable and would provide poor coverage, so they got us Brits to do it...
Apparently UEFA didn't allow ITV to host tonight's coverage because of the Goal Line Error in the Liverpool/Chelsea match a few weeks ago. UEFA weren't best pleased apparently.
I thought that was out of their hands
I'd heard ITV were offered to be host broadcaster first but didn't take it up (might as well get someone else to do it for you!)
Andrew
Founding member
nwtv2003 posted:
edward posted:
fusionlad posted:
Sky Sports were the host broadcasters for tonights final apparently.
No doubt it would have been 4:3 coverage if the Turkish broadcasters were allowed to cover it.
No doubt it would have been 4:3 coverage if the Turkish broadcasters were allowed to cover it.
It was more of a case that the Turkish were too unreliable and would provide poor coverage, so they got us Brits to do it...
Apparently UEFA didn't allow ITV to host tonight's coverage because of the Goal Line Error in the Liverpool/Chelsea match a few weeks ago. UEFA weren't best pleased apparently.
I thought that was out of their hands
I'd heard ITV were offered to be host broadcaster first but didn't take it up (might as well get someone else to do it for you!)
ED
It was more of a case that the Turkish were too unreliable and would provide poor coverage, so they got us Brits to do it...
Apparently UEFA didn't allow ITV to host tonight's coverage because of the Goal Line Error in the Liverpool/Chelsea match a few weeks ago. UEFA weren't best pleased apparently.
Any news on the TV Rights for the Champions League next season? As they're up for renewal and it's set to stay the same as it is now, with ITV and Sky sharing the rights.
Probably the same set-up as present, as there is a UEFA ruling for no sole coverage. Can't see Channel Four, or god help us, five, taking the rights. I'm sure Sky Sports and ITV will take it. BBC could take it, but it's chances are lowered as it couldn't broadcast the sponsorship.
nwtv2003 posted:
edward posted:
fusionlad posted:
Sky Sports were the host broadcasters for tonights final apparently.
No doubt it would have been 4:3 coverage if the Turkish broadcasters were allowed to cover it.
No doubt it would have been 4:3 coverage if the Turkish broadcasters were allowed to cover it.
It was more of a case that the Turkish were too unreliable and would provide poor coverage, so they got us Brits to do it...
Apparently UEFA didn't allow ITV to host tonight's coverage because of the Goal Line Error in the Liverpool/Chelsea match a few weeks ago. UEFA weren't best pleased apparently.
Any news on the TV Rights for the Champions League next season? As they're up for renewal and it's set to stay the same as it is now, with ITV and Sky sharing the rights.
Probably the same set-up as present, as there is a UEFA ruling for no sole coverage. Can't see Channel Four, or god help us, five, taking the rights. I'm sure Sky Sports and ITV will take it. BBC could take it, but it's chances are lowered as it couldn't broadcast the sponsorship.
IS
There's no way the BBC would get the rights - there is the sponsorship issue, but also ITV have bigger pockets and it's worth lots to them in terms of advertising. The Champions league and Formula 1 are the 2 programmes where ITV sell most of their male-orientated advertising
As for tonights match - I heard about the first goal on the way home from work, then was amazed later when it was 3-3. What a match, really wish I'd watched all of the second half.... saw the penalties though, wow!
Although in 5 days we've seen both the FA Cup and the Champions league won by penalties, who'd have thought it?
edward posted:
Probably the same set-up as present, as there is a UEFA ruling for no sole coverage. Can't see Channel Four, or god help us, five, taking the rights. I'm sure Sky Sports and ITV will take it. BBC could take it, but it's chances are lowered as it couldn't broadcast the sponsorship.
There's no way the BBC would get the rights - there is the sponsorship issue, but also ITV have bigger pockets and it's worth lots to them in terms of advertising. The Champions league and Formula 1 are the 2 programmes where ITV sell most of their male-orientated advertising
As for tonights match - I heard about the first goal on the way home from work, then was amazed later when it was 3-3. What a match, really wish I'd watched all of the second half.... saw the penalties though, wow!
Although in 5 days we've seen both the FA Cup and the Champions league won by penalties, who'd have thought it?
HA
There's no way the BBC would get the rights - there is the sponsorship issue, but also ITV have bigger pockets and it's worth lots to them in terms of advertising. The Champions league and Formula 1 are the 2 programmes where ITV sell most of their male-orientated advertising
As for tonights match - I heard about the first goal on the way home from work, then was amazed later when it was 3-3. What a match, really wish I'd seen the second half.... saw the penalties, wow!
Although in 5 days we've seen both the FA Cup and the Champions league won by penalties, who'd have thought it?
What a fantastic game of Football it was, I really thought Liverpool had blown it at half time, but they've done it., so congratulations to Liverpool 
harshy
Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
edward posted:
Probably the same set-up as present, as there is a UEFA ruling for no sole coverage. Can't see Channel Four, or god help us, five, taking the rights. I'm sure Sky Sports and ITV will take it. BBC could take it, but it's chances are lowered as it couldn't broadcast the sponsorship.
There's no way the BBC would get the rights - there is the sponsorship issue, but also ITV have bigger pockets and it's worth lots to them in terms of advertising. The Champions league and Formula 1 are the 2 programmes where ITV sell most of their male-orientated advertising
As for tonights match - I heard about the first goal on the way home from work, then was amazed later when it was 3-3. What a match, really wish I'd seen the second half.... saw the penalties, wow!
Although in 5 days we've seen both the FA Cup and the Champions league won by penalties, who'd have thought it?
FA
What I couldn't understand from a scheduling point of view is who controls the EPG information for ITV?
Even though the schedule changed times, the EPG was never updated, I don't think it has been yet. Yet Sky Sports changed theirs on Sky many a time, of course it is their company, but the BBC always keeps theirs up to date, I was just wondering how this worked.
I also don't understand why ITV didn't use either a next slide (that they seem to use everywhere else) or the ident menu using clips of the programmes to tell you about the change to the schedule, the announcer didn't even say that the schedule had changed, it was as though we already knew.
Even though the schedule changed times, the EPG was never updated, I don't think it has been yet. Yet Sky Sports changed theirs on Sky many a time, of course it is their company, but the BBC always keeps theirs up to date, I was just wondering how this worked.
I also don't understand why ITV didn't use either a next slide (that they seem to use everywhere else) or the ident menu using clips of the programmes to tell you about the change to the schedule, the announcer didn't even say that the schedule had changed, it was as though we already knew.
DA
As I understand it, the BBC's EPG information is gathered directly from their playout and automation, whereas ITV - like most - have a separate uploading process for their EPG information. So on the one hand, the BBC's will be more accurate because it is updated directly as and when, while the rest will only get updated if somebody bothers to change their EPG info. Someone techie will explain that, I'm sure.
The number of times I've seen the BBC advertising for EPG Schedulers in the Guardian as well...
DAS
Founding member
fanoftv posted:
What I couldn't understand from a scheduling point of view is who controls the EPG information for ITV?
Even though the schedule changed times, the EPG was never updated, I don't think it has been yet. Yet Sky Sports changed theirs on Sky many a time, of course it is their company, but the BBC always keeps theirs up to date, I was just wondering how this worked.
I also don't understand why ITV didn't use either a next slide (that they seem to use everywhere else) or the ident menu using clips of the programmes to tell you about the change to the schedule, the announcer didn't even say that the schedule had changed, it was as though we already knew.
Even though the schedule changed times, the EPG was never updated, I don't think it has been yet. Yet Sky Sports changed theirs on Sky many a time, of course it is their company, but the BBC always keeps theirs up to date, I was just wondering how this worked.
I also don't understand why ITV didn't use either a next slide (that they seem to use everywhere else) or the ident menu using clips of the programmes to tell you about the change to the schedule, the announcer didn't even say that the schedule had changed, it was as though we already knew.
As I understand it, the BBC's EPG information is gathered directly from their playout and automation, whereas ITV - like most - have a separate uploading process for their EPG information. So on the one hand, the BBC's will be more accurate because it is updated directly as and when, while the rest will only get updated if somebody bothers to change their EPG info. Someone techie will explain that, I'm sure.
The number of times I've seen the BBC advertising for EPG Schedulers in the Guardian as well...
SE
Square Eyes
Founding member
Caught the end of the game, and credit to ITV for sticking with the action straight from end of extra time, into the penalties and the celebrations / interviews, without an ad break.
Also surprised that ITV News got priority over Love Island, but the right choice.
Also surprised that ITV News got priority over Love Island, but the right choice.
HA
harshy
Founding member
Some technical facts
Sky were the producers of the final; hence it was 16:9. ITV took it 16:9 but apparantly UEFA were too impressed with their earlier coverage of Liverpool and Chelsea's match so gave the match coverage to Sky instead and on Astra 19.2E, the match went out in high definition.
Who knows how many european broadcasters took the match in W/S, I saw about three/four other channels (and a feed) and no one had in W/S
BTW what happen to Martin Tyler, I thought he would commentate on the game or even Alan Parry.
Sky were the producers of the final; hence it was 16:9. ITV took it 16:9 but apparantly UEFA were too impressed with their earlier coverage of Liverpool and Chelsea's match so gave the match coverage to Sky instead and on Astra 19.2E, the match went out in high definition.
Who knows how many european broadcasters took the match in W/S, I saw about three/four other channels (and a feed) and no one had in W/S
BTW what happen to Martin Tyler, I thought he would commentate on the game or even Alan Parry.
IS
The BBC's EPG data does come from the automation running the channel, but they also have EPG Schedulers sitting there inputing and changing the data as changes happen. AIUI if say EastEnders starts at 8:01 the EPG won't tick over till then because it's triggered by the computer playing it out. If a whole section of the schedule is changed then the scheduler will update it.... but they do other things as well
The BBC do have quite a big back end system for such things - programme data and schedules for about 60 diffrent services have to go to the DTT, DSat, Cable companies, the DAB EPGs, the BBC website, WAP site, and various internal systems. It's a big job
DAS posted:
As I understand it, the BBC's EPG information is gathered directly from their playout and automation, whereas ITV - like most - have a separate uploading process for their EPG information. So on the one hand, the BBC's will be more accurate because it is updated directly as and when, while the rest will only get updated if somebody bothers to change their EPG info. Someone techie will explain that, I'm sure.
The number of times I've seen the BBC advertising for EPG Schedulers in the Guardian as well...
The number of times I've seen the BBC advertising for EPG Schedulers in the Guardian as well...
The BBC's EPG data does come from the automation running the channel, but they also have EPG Schedulers sitting there inputing and changing the data as changes happen. AIUI if say EastEnders starts at 8:01 the EPG won't tick over till then because it's triggered by the computer playing it out. If a whole section of the schedule is changed then the scheduler will update it.... but they do other things as well
The BBC do have quite a big back end system for such things - programme data and schedules for about 60 diffrent services have to go to the DTT, DSat, Cable companies, the DAB EPGs, the BBC website, WAP site, and various internal systems. It's a big job
HA
The BBC's EPG data does come from the automation running the channel, but they also have EPG Schedulers sitting there inputing and changing the data as changes happen. AIUI if say EastEnders starts at 8:01 the EPG won't tick over till then because it's triggered by the computer playing it out. If a whole section of the schedule is changed then the scheduler will update it.... but they do other things as well
The BBC do have quite a big back end system for such things - programme data and schedules for about 60 diffrent services have to go to the DTT, DSat, Cable companies, the DAB EPGs, the BBC website, WAP site, and various internal systems. It's a big job
Yep even BBC World is covered with an EPG on Hotbird, and very useful it is too, but not BBC Prime for some reason.
harshy
Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
DAS posted:
As I understand it, the BBC's EPG information is gathered directly from their playout and automation, whereas ITV - like most - have a separate uploading process for their EPG information. So on the one hand, the BBC's will be more accurate because it is updated directly as and when, while the rest will only get updated if somebody bothers to change their EPG info. Someone techie will explain that, I'm sure.
The number of times I've seen the BBC advertising for EPG Schedulers in the Guardian as well...
The number of times I've seen the BBC advertising for EPG Schedulers in the Guardian as well...
The BBC's EPG data does come from the automation running the channel, but they also have EPG Schedulers sitting there inputing and changing the data as changes happen. AIUI if say EastEnders starts at 8:01 the EPG won't tick over till then because it's triggered by the computer playing it out. If a whole section of the schedule is changed then the scheduler will update it.... but they do other things as well
The BBC do have quite a big back end system for such things - programme data and schedules for about 60 diffrent services have to go to the DTT, DSat, Cable companies, the DAB EPGs, the BBC website, WAP site, and various internal systems. It's a big job