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Inspector Sands12,457 posts since 25 Aug 2004

With the tale of the LWT lines going over Waterloo and Blackfriars Bridges, plus technical advances and studios going out of business over the years, it also made me wonder how much redundant TV cabling there is below the streets of London...

I'd have thought that any from that era would have been long replaced by fibre. Space in the various ducts and infrastructure is limited, it will gave got to the stage when BT don't need to look up which circuits are redundant because all of a particular type of cable is obsolete - it'll just all get taken out.


These days a lot of connectivity is just leased bandwidth, it can be used for other things when one customer stops using it. Also its not necessarily a point to point circuit, there'll be a whole load of fibres past TLS, of which they'll be just one user of

Going back to Thames and LWT however, the termination points for Thames' circuits were still in some bays at BT Tower in 2000:
http://www.pbase.com/gilnockie/image/83876977
Incidently, the circuits labelled TFS were Teddington and BHM were Central
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Si-Co1,836 posts since 2 Oct 2003
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
I remember the TVam website did have a bit on the inject studio in newcastle, they even got hold of the backdrop that was used fow down the line stuff from there.


I walked past the TV-am building in Jesmond many times (I had friends who lived around the corner from it), and often wondered what exactly it was used for.
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nwtv20038,207 posts since 5 Jan 2003
Granada North West Today
I believe TV-am’s Manchester studio was based in Altrincham, it only used an existing office block but I believe it’s still there today, obviously all trace of TV-am long gone.

I believe Sky didn’t take on the local studios, I think they bought the News archive (happy to be corrected about this) and took on some staff too, most notably Lisa Aziz.
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Steve in Pudsey9,269 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
The Bradford studio was on the top floor of the National Museum of Photography, Film and Television, and was later used by Nickelodeon.

The set was moved into the basement where there was a studio used by media students at the University of Bradford - or at least it was in the late 90s when I visited on a uni open day.
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bluecortina688 posts since 26 Jul 2012


The other question that occurs to me is why was YTV one of the potential stations that would be rebroadcast if need be?


I think he either meant Anglia (the IBA ROC at Croydon had good quality off air signals from Hannington (TVS) and Sudbury (Anglia), or he meant the Leeds playout centre standby arrangement. Off air YTV in London was impossible !


I suspect a typo too. More likely ATV or Anglia as the 'other' backup . If Kent house were evacuated etc the switch would have been at BT tower, not CP or Croydon, so no need for any off -air signals.
Markymark5,717 posts since 13 Dec 2004
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The other question that occurs to me is why was YTV one of the potential stations that would be rebroadcast if need be?


I think he either meant Anglia (the IBA ROC at Croydon had good quality off air signals from Hannington (TVS) and Sudbury (Anglia), or he meant the Leeds playout centre standby arrangement. Off air YTV in London was impossible !


I suspect a typo too. More likely ATV or Anglia as the 'other' backup . If Kent house were evacuated etc the switch would have been at BT tower, not CP or Croydon, so no need for any off -air signals.


Although Thames once had a bomb scare evacuation, and on that instance the IBA Croydon ROC patched off-air received TVS to Crystal Palace (Remember up until the late 80s, the outgoing BT Tower feeds went via the IBA control room at Croydon on their way to CP).
I think during Southern's era the same thing happened one Friday night with LWT ?