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How can a TV suddenly die without warning?

(August 2005)

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BB
BBC LDN
james2001 posted:
tvnewsjunkie posted:
probably fed up with all the ****e on it....


What is it with the attitude of some forumers lately?


Oh get a sense of humour, you old crone.
DA
Dan Founding member
BBC TV Centre posted:
As an aside, what kind of media do the BBC use?


http://store1.yimg.com/I/tapestock_1858_2405134
CS
Cerulean Sunrise
jason posted:
And how many people here still have a separates hi-fi system?

Separates are more durable and better built, you have the same issue of one part breaks, replace the lot with an all-in-one system and usually a separates system has better sound quality than an all-in-one stereo at the same price point.

But folk buy the one-box solution for ease-of-use and convenience. Same with TVs/VCRs etc.

(I will only buy separates BTW, and wouldn't give you the time of day for a combined TV/VCR, but that's just me).

As for the reliability and durability of modern equipment, I firmly believe that electronics have never been more reliable, but as has been said here society has changed. I've known of people who have chucked a TV away because the remote control failed. They couldn't be bothered even to contact the manufacturer and spend £30 on a new one, instead preferring to blow £400 on the latest model. It's madness.

It's the same with cars. How many perfectly-good serviceable vehicles are on the scrapheap for the sake of a £100 component that might cost another £100 to fit? It's more than a little bit pathetic when you think about it.


Sorry to butt in - I have a Panny TV, a Nokia Digibox, a Grundig vid recorder and a Cello DVD player. My Dad has Panny TV and vid, Philips digibox, Wharfedale DVD player and YAMAHA surround sound system. Never had any probs with any of them. Seperates is the way to go.
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Dan posted:
BBC TV Centre posted:
As an aside, what kind of media do the BBC use?


http://store1.yimg.com/I/tapestock_1858_2405134


What?! You mean they don't use those old video tapes with the BBC Sport globe on them?! Laughing
DB
dbl
Well my mum bought a Matsui 24 inch TV and 7 years later it works fine.

(BTW, what does overscan mean?)
MA
marksi
The difference between the amount of picture actually transmitted and that visible on a particular television is overscan, or cut-off. Every TV will have a little cut-off and this is allowed for when TV graphics are designed though some televisions have more cut-off than others. Some have engineering menus which allow you to adjust this, though most do not.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
jason posted:
Just to add to that -- Alba Radio and Strand are not themselves manufacturers. While cwathen is completely correct that the "JVC" VCRs were made by the same company that made *some* Alba Group VCRs, Alba were not the manufacturer either. I know the videos you're on about; they were made by a Far-Eastern outfit that I don't recall the name of. Many Alba VCRs were Orion/Thakrals though, just like Matsui. The televisions are typically made by the Turkish companies Beko and Vestel. Several major companies use these Turkish firms.


I have a Lodos combi unit (DVD player integrated) that Sainsburys were flogging for about £90. I'm pretty convinced it's a Bush TV set that's been repainted grey, rebranded and had a DVD Player bolted onto it (which seems to be multi-region as well).

I know Bush and Alba brands are basically one and the same and that the TV was made in Turkey by the label on the back of the unit. I dare say it's come from one of the Turkish companies.

With regards to the BBC Videotapes - they weren't too bad considering the price but I dare say it was the luck of the draw as to whether you got a decent tape or not.

Whatever happened to the Scotch videotapes? They had their advertising slogan as "Re-record, not fade away" and some skeleton wearing glasses.

As to what overscan is, try this (first Google link that came up):
http://www.mastersofcinema.org/reviews/03lookingbeyond.htm
DB
dbl
marksi posted:
The difference between the amount of picture actually transmitted and that visible on a particular television is overscan, or cut-off. Every TV will have a little cut-off and this is allowed for when TV graphics are designed though some televisions have more cut-off than others. Some have engineering menus which allow you to adjust this, though most do not.

Thanks for the info. Smile
:-(
A former member
> I have a Lodos combi unit (DVD player integrated) that Sainsburys were flogging for about £90. I'm pretty convinced it's a Bush TV set that's been repainted grey, rebranded and had a DVD Player bolted onto it (which seems to be multi-region as well).

ISTR that "Lodos" is one of Vestel's house brands. So what you have there is probably the original model that Bush rebranded.
FL
Flava
What about BASF, or as they're now known EMTEC?

I always found their tapes to be superb.

What about Maxxell too? I seem to use a lot of their videos.
LL
London Lite Founding member
The JVC blank tapes are excellent.

Also I do remember those BBC blank tapes in Poundland, I never brought any!
SA
saturdaymorning
TV are good.

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