NG
How many of their boxes are actually connected to a phone line?
I'm sure Sky sort of make it a condition that boxes have to be connected to a phoneline for 12 months IIRC, don't they?
Only an absolute requirement if you have multiroom (so that they can confirm that all boxes are connected to the same landline - which is why you need a standard phone line with unblocked caller ID)
There MAY be a cost incentive to connect your phone (the early boxes had a BIB subsidy) - but there isn't an absolute requirement. When I bought my first Sky Digibox in 1998 I got a cheaper box because I agreed to keep it plugged into the phone for 12 months. I unplugged it 12 months later - and haven't plugged it back in since.
Secondly how would they know who is watching? BARB boxes register how many people are watching
Maybe the count customers rather than people and work it out with some clever statistics?
That wouldn't be clever stats - that would be clairvoyance...
There is no way that they can know if ANYONE is watching - apart from registering remote control usage. That will tell them someone is using the box - but not how many people are watching, and who.
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Sky wouldn't know if you're watching Sky News all day or whether you've just left the box on.
Don't Sky boxes have an automatic ‘Auto Standby’ feature?
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Yep - but it only kicks in after a couple of hours (or in the early morning?)
Lastly BARB is an industry standard that all the broadcasters (including Sky) agree on and subscribe to, a separate set of statistics wouldn't be credible next to them
I'm sure it's just so Sky can "big up"some of their own channel's say Sky 1 that don't necessirly get great 1st viewing figures, but better timeshift figures.
BARB do consolidated figures including all timeshift viewing within a 7 day(?) period - which come out about a fortnight later.
noggin
Founding member
That doesn't sound right to me. I've never heard of Sky doing that and how they'd go about it I have no idea.
As you say I'd imagine that there would be legal problems but also in practice it would be useless data for ratings purposes: Firstly it wouldn't be representative - how many of their boxes are actually connected to a phone line? Secondly how would thy know who is watching? BARB boxes register how many people are watching - Sky wouldn't know if you're watching Sky News all day or whether you've just left the box on. Lastly BARB is an industry standard that all the broadcasters (including Sky) agree on and subscribe to, a separate set of statistics wouldn't be credible next to them.
As you say I'd imagine that there would be legal problems but also in practice it would be useless data for ratings purposes: Firstly it wouldn't be representative - how many of their boxes are actually connected to a phone line? Secondly how would thy know who is watching? BARB boxes register how many people are watching - Sky wouldn't know if you're watching Sky News all day or whether you've just left the box on. Lastly BARB is an industry standard that all the broadcasters (including Sky) agree on and subscribe to, a separate set of statistics wouldn't be credible next to them.
How many of their boxes are actually connected to a phone line?
I'm sure Sky sort of make it a condition that boxes have to be connected to a phoneline for 12 months IIRC, don't they?
Only an absolute requirement if you have multiroom (so that they can confirm that all boxes are connected to the same landline - which is why you need a standard phone line with unblocked caller ID)
There MAY be a cost incentive to connect your phone (the early boxes had a BIB subsidy) - but there isn't an absolute requirement. When I bought my first Sky Digibox in 1998 I got a cheaper box because I agreed to keep it plugged into the phone for 12 months. I unplugged it 12 months later - and haven't plugged it back in since.
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Secondly how would they know who is watching? BARB boxes register how many people are watching
Maybe the count customers rather than people and work it out with some clever statistics?
That wouldn't be clever stats - that would be clairvoyance...
There is no way that they can know if ANYONE is watching - apart from registering remote control usage. That will tell them someone is using the box - but not how many people are watching, and who.
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Sky wouldn't know if you're watching Sky News all day or whether you've just left the box on.
Don't Sky boxes have an automatic ‘Auto Standby’ feature?
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Yep - but it only kicks in after a couple of hours (or in the early morning?)
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Lastly BARB is an industry standard that all the broadcasters (including Sky) agree on and subscribe to, a separate set of statistics wouldn't be credible next to them
I'm sure it's just so Sky can "big up"some of their own channel's say Sky 1 that don't necessirly get great 1st viewing figures, but better timeshift figures.
BARB do consolidated figures including all timeshift viewing within a 7 day(?) period - which come out about a fortnight later.