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What are the current rules? (August 2008)

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JO
Joe
TEST CARD CHRIS posted:
Sorry old bean, it is not covered by the licence fee.

No amount of debating can make it so!

You're right. So go and have a read of good old Wikipedia, or even http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/.

Because I'm bored, can you please tell me what and what isn't covered by the licence fee? For example, is radio? The BBC website? What about ITV? Playboy? Is that covered?

If you want, you can just say you were wrong. Nobody will care, in fact I'm sure we'll all think of you better for doing so.
DB
dbl
TEST CARD CHRIS posted:
Sorry old bean, it is not covered by the licence fee.

No amount of debating can make it so!

It IS! How clear does that diagram make it.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
TEST CARD CHRIS posted:
Hi Gavin,

I do not enjoy or use any of these new services.
BBC4 is a free to air channel and as such is not covered by the licence fee anyway, but is in my opinion filled with rubbish that i do not wish to watch.


I find that very hard to believe - not that I intend any offence.

Nothing? Not BBC News once or twice, or Doctor Who or Rome or Blue Planet?

You see, the programmes you lament in your earlier post are precisely the ones which litter all of the commercial alternatives, in far greater abundance than the BBC portfolio of channels could be accused of.

ITV, 4, 5, Virgin and Sky channels are somewhat homogeneous to the untrained eye these days, nearly all offering that which you claim to not like.

So - in the interests of clarity, if not brevity - could you perhaps itemise your personal schedule for my perusal so that I might better understand how you can avoid a BBC outlet over the course of 24 hours?
TE
TEST CARD CHRIS
It is true that our tv is better than tv abroad,
My point is that i should be able to opt out of it if i wish....and i do!

Since the tv lic does not cover us abroad, then that has no bearing at all on this

Nobody has answered my point..........

As a consumer, i should not be forced to have and pay for a service that i do not want. The technology is available for them to stop me getting it if i do not pay for it so why not use it and see just how popular they really are!
AB
ashley b Founding member
Is it me or has there been a sudden influx of 'Digital Spy style' members* over recent weeks?

* I would guess they actually are Digital Spy members, but obviously can't say for definite
PE
Pete Founding member
TEST CARD CHRIS posted:
Nobody has answered my point..........

As a consumer, i should not be forced to have and pay for a service that i do not want. The technology is available for them to stop me getting it if i do not pay for it so why not use it and see just how popular they really are!


I think everyone was too distracted by your bizzare statement about BBC4, which YOU haven't explained. HOW is it not covered by the licence fee? Where does they money for it come from? What DOES the licence cover?
TE
TEST CARD CHRIS
Believe it or not, i really don't care.

It seems that i have strayed onto the BBC supporters club forum.
I will not ever give anyone a blow by blow account of the tv that i watch, but i will say that it does not include the BBC very often, and not enought to make it worth while paying for if i had the choice
BBC news puts the slant on storys that it wants, and so is not impartial
I do not like Dr. Who and have not seen Rome or Blue planet.

Is it not my right to choose what i spend my money on?

Honestly, really,truthfully etc. I do not want the trash the BBC pump into my home!
Sorry if some people cannot accept this, but it is true! Even if you list the whole BBC schedule, if i do not think that it is good value then i should not be FORCED to have it.
PE
Pete Founding member
I'm not disputing that, if you insist you don't use the BBC then who am I to argue. What I'm asking is how BBC4 is funded if its not by the licence fee.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
TEST CARD CHRIS posted:
It is true that our tv is better than tv abroad,
My point is that i should be able to opt out of it if i wish....and i do!


I am quite sure you wish to "opt out". As I would like to "opt out" of certain tax levies which I do not feel are applicable to me, in an ideal world.

Except its not an ideal world and I cannot do that. In a civilised society one must accept that certain burdens required by the State should be borne for the benefit of everyone. Not just me, the individual.

You are right in saying, "Our TV is better than abroad". It leads the world and is totally unique. They couldn't possibly do that by opt-in subscriptions because they would be driven purely in commercial terms.

The BBC cannot operate as a subscription model, whether the technology to run it that way exists or not.

I still cannot believe that you don't avail yourself of some of the BBC's gems, or watch the news from time to time - so I will not believe you're not at least getting some money's worth from what is one of the smaller taxes you have to pay over a year. I mean, really. Don't pee on my leg and tell me its raining.

So, with all due respect, stop complaining and pay it like the rest of us. Consider it what you're due and owing for the excellence of the 1980s programming you so enjoyed, and don't deny the benefit of the BBC to those who come after you.
TE
TEST CARD CHRIS
ashley b posted:
Is it me or has there been a sudden influx of 'Digital Spy style' members* over recent weeks?

* I would guess they actually are Digital Spy members, but obviously can't say for definite


I am not a digital spy.
I am a Sky subscriber, but if i were not to pay that i would simply be cut off, nobody would take me to court.

I love the old BBC stuff and have lots of it on DVD, but think that since the mid to late 80's the output has been of poor quality and i would like the option to not receive it anymore.
Before i rattled the "BBC Board" i thought that i was entitled to my own opinion, and i thought these forums were meant as a friendly place to debate points, not for a whole load of cats to claw at anyone they do not agree with. I am shocked and dissapointed that a forum is being used in this way, and that the Moderators if they exist have not policed it better.
I do have a genuine interest in our TV history and feel that many great programmes were made. I should not be clawed at for having a different opinion to you, this is surely not the purpose of the forum

We can all act big and hard from behind a computer keyboard.
PE
Pete Founding member
I don't think I'm ever going to learn how BBC4 is funded am I Sad
AB
ashley b Founding member
TEST CARD CHRIS posted:
I am not a digital spy.
I am a Sky subscriber, but if i were not to pay that i would simply be cut off, nobody would take me to court.

I love the old BBC stuff and have lots of it on DVD, but think that since the mid to late 80's the output has been of poor quality and i would like the option to not receive it anymore.
Before i rattled the "BBC Board" i thought that i was entitled to my own opinion, and i thought these forums were meant as a friendly place to debate points, not for a whole load of cats to claw at anyone they do not agree with. I am shocked and dissapointed that a forum is being used in this way, and that the Moderators if they exist have not policed it better.
I do have a genuine interest in our TV history and feel that many great programmes were made. I should not be clawed at for having a different opinion to you, this is surely not the purpose of the forum

We can all act big and hard from behind a computer keyboard.


Unfortunately, what you seem unable to understand, is that you haven't rattled this "BBC board" you speak of. You have mearly come on here stating made up comments as fact.

The reason we have a problem is that you're saying that BBC Four is not funded by the licence fee, which is rubbish. And seeing as you seem unable to back up your claim (as expected, as it is false) and instead resort to:

TEST CARD CHRIS posted:
Sorry old bean, it is not covered by the licence fee.

No amount of debating can make it so!


Unfortunately, no amount of debating can change that fact that it IS funded by the licence fee.

You'll be respected a whole lot more when you can admit that you're wrong.

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