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(January 2004)

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AS
Aston
Spencer For Hire posted:

The abbreviation of BBC London News to "LDN"


How does this affect you if you live in Yorkshire?

When saying it outloud it's always referred to as "BBC London News".

I really wouldn't worry about it if I were you...
AJ
AJ
all AVAGO related channels including:

AVAGO
Nation 277
Game In TV
I Sports TV

(although Nation 277 is the better of the bunch)
ME
me
Camera angles which look like the operator was drunk.

Oh, and those ruddy cut-away shots (often in black and white), shadowing the main camera crew like some kind of demented fly.
NW
nwtv2003
Charlie Wells posted:
nwtv2003 posted:

BBCi on NTL, the same walled garden sh*te which takes ages to load and is nothing compared to BBCi on Sky and Freeview.


I agree, you can only get BBCi automatically on BBC1 and 2, and not on any of the other BBC channels, and compared to Freeview it is awful . I think I'll just put all of NTL's 'interactive' stuff into Room 101 as none of it is of much good.

Laughing


The thing which really annoys me the most is that we get NTL in an Ex-CWC area, meaning that we have the CR3 and Liberate 1.2 Software and we do get some good Video On Demand events from time to time, but only recently we only seem to get Question Time and Score Interactive. But it p*sses me off that we don't get it all of the time, we get the slow walled garden crap when we are able to have VoD reports from BBC News, BBC Sport and BBC Weather, as seen on the Jenson Button promo.
KA
Katherine Founding member
Those incredibly smug people in the Direct Line adverts......
EH
Ed Hammond
Debts piling up? Can't see a way out? Even if you've been refused a loan elsewhere, by a reputable business, why not phone Smiley Loans? Even if you have CCJs, existing loans, eighteen mortgages on your house, a £300 a day drug habit or have been unemployed for your entire life, phone 0800 000 000 and our friendly operators in Mumbai will be pleased to throw thousands of pounds in your direction, whether it be for a new kitchen, a new car, or even to consolidate all your existing debts into one easily manageable, but strangely more expensive, monthly payment, payable each and every month from now until the end of the time?

So, why not call Smiley Loans today? Look, I'm sitting on a desk in an office full of books - it *must* all be above board!

(Your home is at risk if you fail to keep up repayments on a loan or any part thereof secured upon it, and we'll send the boys round too if you're not careful, gorrit?)
CW
cwathen Founding member
I'd have to agree with most finance adds - the majority of them spending the entire add making out that pretty much everyone is eligable, before slipping into the final line that it's a 'homeowner loan' (in other words it amounts to remortgaging your house, because if you don't finish paying for it you loose your house), and despite covering pretty much every reason short of bankruptcy that could cause you to be refused elsewhere, it's still 'subject to status'.

Couple that with a salesman who has all the manner of a second hand car salesman, a few very bad actors playing 'common northern person with CCJ's, a remortgaged house, loanshark debts et al man number 1', and a phone number which changes every 2 minutes (I've lost count of how many different numbers Ocean Finance have bandied about in their lifetime), and you have a highly questionable outfit and a very bad advert.

Apart from that, widescreen TV has got to be fairly high on my list, even higher is cropping 4:3 programmes to a widescreen ratio to try and make it look widescreen; clips I can *just about* learn to accept, but some broadcasters are now cropping entire programmes.
DJ
DJGM
Although I'm a hardcore advocate for widescreen television, I do agree with those concerns about this "everything
must be widescreen" mentality that seems to frequent the minds of (mostly BBC) TV executives. I don't really mind
too much if short clips (of 20 seconds each or less) of originally 4:3 material, gets cropped to the pillared version
of 14:9, in order to provide an example of something, for a current program that's produced in widescreen.

But I do agree in the strongest possible terms that chopping up entire 4:3 programs to ribbons, to appear as 16:9
is just indefensibly stupid, and those responsible for such butchery should be banished to "Room 101" forever!
SP
Spencer
Aston posted:
Spencer For Hire posted:

The abbreviation of BBC London News to "LDN"


How does this affect you if you live in Yorkshire?

When saying it outloud it's always referred to as "BBC London News".

I really wouldn't worry about it if I were you...


Well, it used to bug me when London was the default region on Sky... and it's still shown on News 24 nationally during Breakfast.

I just find it deeply pretentious and well... a bit w*nky. If it's called 'London News', why not just put that on screen? Then you don't get the likes of Greg Dyke refering to it as 'BBC L.D.N.' as he did on one occasion.

Doesn't seem like good branding sense if your logo says one thing, and your name is something else.

...and incidentally I'm not 'worrying' about it, just expressing my opinion on an element of television presentation.
AS
Asa Admin
Bad use of menus/ECPs.

Exhibit A:

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ecpcredits.jpg

Seems Heggessey is so desperate to "keep up the pace" of BBC One junctions, the afternoon menu has been sandwiched into the end credits of the previous programme from now on.
SD
Steve D
Asa posted:
Seems Heggessey is so desperate to "keep up the pace" of BBC One junctions, the afternoon menu has been sandwiched into the end credits of the previous programme from now on.


This has been going on for quite a while now - at least since the afternoon regional news opt moved to BBC One. It is actually a much better way of delivering the menu than over a static slide (ergh!) but I agree that it doesn't always look too clever because the imported programmes which usually run in that slot are not available with right-ranged credits, so have to be squeezed by the DVE. You may have noticed that before Christmas, when there were some ECPs running on Neighbours, Grundy produced special right-ranged end credits on those episodes for the BBC.
MB
Mark Boulton
Asa posted:
Bad use of EPGs.

Exhibit A:

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ecpcredits.jpg

Seems Heggessey is so desperate to "keep up the pace" of BBC One junctions, the afternoon menu has been sandwiched into the end credits of the previous programme from now on.


It would have been better simply to zoom-out the entire programme image maintaining aspect ratio, into the bottom right-hand corner.

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