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Ok, I will concede that there would have been farmers interested in the news at that time. Lets not have an argument eh?
EH? who said that? were discussing....
WW
I guess too with TV-am being a station rather than a programme it probably had a remit to go beyond what would be populist - and of course at that time it would have been fledgling, so they weren't to know what would be considered popular morning programming.
Yes, there was no precedent except radio and a few weeks of Breakfast Time, they didn't know what would work and what wouldn't. Radio 4 has a farming programme and farmers are up early... you can see the logic
At the time, morning shows were already quite popular not just in the United States, but also in Australia and Canada. There were plenty of precedents they could have learned from.
I guess too with TV-am being a station rather than a programme it probably had a remit to go beyond what would be populist - and of course at that time it would have been fledgling, so they weren't to know what would be considered popular morning programming.
Yes, there was no precedent except radio and a few weeks of Breakfast Time, they didn't know what would work and what wouldn't. Radio 4 has a farming programme and farmers are up early... you can see the logic
At the time, morning shows were already quite popular not just in the United States, but also in Australia and Canada. There were plenty of precedents they could have learned from.
IS
But what worked for foreign viewers wouldn't necessarily work for a British audience. Both breakfast programmes would have taken elements from the likes of Good Morning America, but the format had to be a unique British one. There was no precedent as to what that format was or what the viewing public wanted.
For example, one of the main things that eventually turned TVam around was something that no other country did on their breakfast programmes - newspaper bingo numbers!
At the time, morning shows were already quite popular not just in the United States, but also in Australia and Canada. There were
plenty
of precedents they could have learned from.
But what worked for foreign viewers wouldn't necessarily work for a British audience. Both breakfast programmes would have taken elements from the likes of Good Morning America, but the format had to be a unique British one. There was no precedent as to what that format was or what the viewing public wanted.
For example, one of the main things that eventually turned TVam around was something that no other country did on their breakfast programmes - newspaper bingo numbers!
WW
But what worked for foreign viewers wouldn't necessarily work for a British audience.
True. To be truly successful, any such format must be adapted to the unique characteristics of a specific national TV market. However, I was merely pointing that there were indeed many precedents available. When introducing a new format that has already been tried in other countries, a good executive producer always tries to learn from the successes and failures of others -- as I'm sure was the case here. There is no need to "reinvent the wheel" and pretend that nothing existed beforehand.
But what worked for foreign viewers wouldn't necessarily work for a British audience.
True. To be truly successful, any such format must be adapted to the unique characteristics of a specific national TV market. However, I was merely pointing that there were indeed many precedents available. When introducing a new format that has already been tried in other countries, a good executive producer always tries to learn from the successes and failures of others -- as I'm sure was the case here. There is no need to "reinvent the wheel" and pretend that nothing existed beforehand.
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Did any other breakfast show used a rat? wacky man with a mattle? Banana, Or Ann diamond?
WW
No, but CBS's morning show featured a puppet lion for comic relief when Walter Cronkite hosted it back in the 1950s:
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/cbsnews/2008/05/29/image4135536.jpg
Source: CBS News
While NBC's Today had a real-life monkey:
http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/100301/tdy_klg_whoknew_100301.video-260x195.jpg
Source: MSNBC
Did any other breakfast show used a rat? wacky man with a mattle? Banana, Or Ann diamond?
No, but CBS's morning show featured a puppet lion for comic relief when Walter Cronkite hosted it back in the 1950s:
http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/cbsnews/2008/05/29/image4135536.jpg
Source: CBS News
While NBC's Today had a real-life monkey:
http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/100301/tdy_klg_whoknew_100301.video-260x195.jpg
Source: MSNBC
SW
I don't want to start this debate again, but Breakfast Time had a farming spot when it started as well.
Radio 4 has a farming programme and farmers are up early... you can see the logic
I don't want to start this debate again, but Breakfast Time had a farming spot when it started as well.
RO
My mum and late dad prefered Breakfast Time to TV-am for one thing, regional news. TV-am, for techinical reasons, couldn't provide it, BBC could. So what were the techincal reasons, as GMTV were able to provide regional news?
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My mum and late dad prefered Breakfast Time to TV-am for one thing, regional news. TV-am, for techinical reasons, couldn't provide it, BBC could. So what were the techincal reasons, as GMTV were able to provide regional news?
Im sure part of the problem was, the 15 companies were used to getting one feed from one place, but still hard control over what got broadcast in the local area. So if LWT sent something down the line STV could opt out to broadcast local news.
BUT TVAM had full control over all 15 areas, and could only provide a single feed, there had no way of providing local opt outs. from 0915 - 0930 BT used to change over the lines to give ITV station back control. I bet back then the Unions would have wanted more money if there had to start switching feeds between local companies etc..