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The trouble with EastEnders

(April 2007)

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Prime Minister posted:
Honestly, who writes this rubbish? Surely real life can't be this miserable? No-one ever smiles, tells jokes or messes around. I don't live in East London, but if it's really like EastEnders portrays it as, I certainly wouldn't want to live there.


The humour/drama - or should that be melodrama - balance is way off. When they do humour, it's shocking and now, they can't even pull off the drama properly.

Oh how I long for the days of 2001 again. The cast was so much better back then.
PT
Put The Telly On
Prime Minister posted:
Last night's episode was beyond belief.

We had the character "Dot" (who has now been officially ruined), being driven all the way to Kent by her hubby Jim, because she was mourning the loss of "her only friend Pauline". They went to Kent because that's where Dot used to sing her prayers. Or something.


Well that is totally laughable. Since when has Dot been associated with Kent. This is one of the many reasons EastEnders fails - because its storylines are so random its untrue! What next? The Archbishop of Canterbury turns up in The Vic and has a fling with Peggy? Perrrr-lease!

It makes me SO angry! Mad
JO
Johnny83
Prime Minister posted:
Last night's episode was beyond belief.

We had the character "Dot" (who has now been officially ruined), being driven all the way to Kent by her hubby Jim, because she was mourning the loss of "her only friend Pauline". They went to Kent because that's where Dot used to sing her prayers. Or something.

And when they got there, the writer decided to kick her in the teeth about 5 times as follows...

1) Finds out the vicar she loves is gone and is now a woman priest
2) Her long lost friend died 2 weeks before
3) The long lost friends priest of a son is now a religion hater
4) The priest then informs her that it is her fault her son was so bad and not God.
5) Then in the middle of the night a woman oh so happens to leave her baby in the church for Dot to find and she thinks its a sign from God.

Honestly, who writes this rubbish? Surely real life can't be this miserable? No-one ever smiles, tells jokes or messes around. I don't live in East London, but if it's really like EastEnders portrays it as, I certainly wouldn't want to live there.


East London is nothing like that, sure you get stabbed or shot but in general it all right.

For a start where EE is wrong is it's ethnic mix, those that live in London and know that particular part of London (Walford East replaces Bromley-By-Bow on the tube map) has a big ethnic mix, the fact the majority of the EastEnders cast is white is so unrealistic.

Also, Who owns a f***ing car but works only two door steps away??? No wonder the car lot has troubles every so often. Also are you honestly telling me it cheaper to drink in a pub in London rather than get a 4 pack out of the off licence, and as for the Laundrette I mean how many of them do you still know of in London & those that do still exist are empty most of the time.

This show really needs a kick up the ar*e, or needs to be killed off
PT
Put The Telly On
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/a45025/june-brown-signs-new-enders-contract.html

"It was reported in February that the 80-year-old actress wanted to leave the soap because she disagreed with a storyline in which Dot found a refugee baby abandoned in a church. However, she has now been convinced to appear on the popular soap for another 12 months."

A spokesperson told DS: "We never comment on our actors' contracts."


Hmm, I would have liked to been a fly on the wall when they convinced her to stay. Rolling Eyes

I can imagine a lot of disagreements or bad attitudes behind the scenes regarding storylines.
PM
Prime Minister
nok32uk posted:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/a45025/june-brown-signs-new-enders-contract.html

"It was reported in February that the 80-year-old actress wanted to leave the soap because she disagreed with a storyline in which Dot found a refugee baby abandoned in a church. However, she has now been convinced to appear on the popular soap for another 12 months."

A spokesperson told DS: "We never comment on our actors' contracts."


Hmm, I would have liked to been a fly on the wall when they convinced her to stay. Rolling Eyes

I can imagine a lot of disagreements or bad attitudes behind the scenes regarding storylines.


Well my best friend happens to be a fly (believe it if you wish), and he just happened to be in Diederick Santer's office when he (Santer) was convincing June Brown to stay. Here's how, he told me, it went:

JUNE: I wanna leave!!!! You ******* on this stupid show have given me nothing but crap storylines in the last year!!! Dot loses her best friend, then kills her best friend's husband (which was forgotten about in precisely 71 and a half hours), then the poor cow finds a baby in a church, and now you crackheads are gonna give me a storyline where Dot, an honest and law abiding human being, takes in a refugee!! What next? Natasha Kaplinsky arrives in the square and Dot has a lesbian affair with her?!
DIEDERICK: I do apologise if you feel storylines have been a tad weak recently.
JUNE: A tad weak??!! They've been flaming horse excrement! I wanna go!!
DIEDERICK: Oh don't go June! I've got fabtastic storylines lined up for you! Next week, you go into the local supermarket and see Bill Gates. You think he's Jesus, and marry him, but you don't tell Jim! Then the month or six after, you star in EastEnders' first ever silent episode, where you dress up as a frog, which hops past the front door during the middle of the episode which is focusing on the front door!!
JUNE: I WANNA GO YOU MIDDLE CLASS TWERP!!
DIEDERICK: Do you want to sign a contract worth £370,000?
JUNE: Oh yes please...
MH
miss hellfire
Well that is totally laughable. Since when has Dot been associated with Kent.

Well as it happens June Brown used to or maybe still does live in Kent. She has/had a home in Folkestone. in the posh part. Yes! There is posh part of Folkestone. Not that has any relevance to her EE character.
That's my EE trivia for the day.
JO
Johnny83
Prime Minister posted:
nok32uk posted:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/a45025/june-brown-signs-new-enders-contract.html

"It was reported in February that the 80-year-old actress wanted to leave the soap because she disagreed with a storyline in which Dot found a refugee baby abandoned in a church. However, she has now been convinced to appear on the popular soap for another 12 months."

A spokesperson told DS: "We never comment on our actors' contracts."


Hmm, I would have liked to been a fly on the wall when they convinced her to stay. Rolling Eyes

I can imagine a lot of disagreements or bad attitudes behind the scenes regarding storylines.


Well my best friend happens to be a fly (believe it if you wish), and he just happened to be in Diederick Santer's office when he (Santer) was convincing June Brown to stay. Here's how, he told me, it went:

JUNE: I wanna leave!!!! You *******s on this stupid show have given me nothing but crap storylines in the last year!!! Dot loses her best friend, then kills her best friend's husband (which was forgotten about in precisely 71 and a half hours), then the poor cow finds a baby in a church, and now you crackheads are gonna give me a storyline where Dot, an honest and law abiding human being, takes in a refugee!! What next? Natasha Kaplinsky arrives in the square and Dot has a lesbian affair with her?!
DIEDERICK: I do apologise if you feel storylines have been a tad weak recently.
JUNE: A tad weak??!! They've been flaming horse excrement! I wanna go!!
DIEDERICK: Oh don't go June! I've got fabtastic storylines lined up for you! Next week, you go into the local supermarket and see Bill Gates. You think he's Jesus, and marry him, but you don't tell Jim! Then the month or six after, you star in EastEnders' first ever silent episode, where you dress up as a frog, which hops past the front door during the middle of the episode which is focusing on the front door!!
JUNE: I WANNA GO YOU MIDDLE CLASS TWERP!!
DIEDERICK: Do you want to sign a contract worth £370,000?
JUNE: Oh yes please...


To be fair to June Brown (and this doesn't meant to sound as patronising as it does) but what other work would she get besides EE? She's been in it too long now to appear in anything else, if younger actors/actresses can't get on after leaving EE what hope has she got.

BTW that's not me being ageist it's just fact unfortunately
JO
Johnny83
Classic example tonight, on TV Times' pick of the day (when will they learn).... actualyl I'll put it in a spoiler not to spoil it Laughing for "fans"

Bad Girls actress Kika Miryless (one of the two Julie's) stars as Garry's mum and she is getting wed in a Western (Cowboy & Indians) fancy dress Rolling Eyes


Just so like everyday life that Rolling Eyes Laughing
MH
miss hellfire
Was Garry riding a Lambretta or a Vespa? A very Mod scooter. All those headlights, it was like quadrophenia.
JO
Jonathan
AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL. It just gets worse. The immigrant's first words sum up VERY nicely June Brown's alias Dot Cotton. Why do the scriptwriters think that complicated and mysterious storylines endear us? They don't. Way too much focus on ''Tomazs'' or whatever it is called and way too much exposure of Abby Branning. It's become depressingly bad.
PM
Prime Minister
Absolutely appallingly bad episode tonight.

Who on Earth was that at the end? I appreciate people who read spoilers all the time would know, but for people like me who don't, it gets very confusing?

Who on Earth was that knocking at Dot's front door? I'm not bionic, whoever wrote the damn thing. Too much time spent on the annoying Abi. Unfunny comedy with Jim and that big bloke in the pole dancing club. What was Jim doing there? Oh I forgot, Dot sent him there, because that's where the baby's mother might be. Rolling Eyes

It just gets worse and worse each episode (mind you, if it stays like that, in 2/3 years time we'll be looking back on today as the golden age Rolling Eyes )
:-(
A former member
yes there in Dartford YET there clearly in Hertfordshire!

UNO gives it away!

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