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Square Eyes posted:
Does it say in the charter that they must provide this service ?
Isn't the basis of the charter "to inform, educate and entertain"? It certainly covers the first two quite well! That being said, there is perhaps an opportunity for a reasonable amount of money to regain using some limited sponsorship on BBCi, just not enough to detract from its performance.
JB
It didn't say they had to get into television. Where would we be if they had decided to stay out of it?
Who cares if everyone in the world can see BBCi? There's something up if people are bothered about a few quid out of the licence fee (which most people on this forum probably don't have to pay yet) not being seen by their eyes only, especially when it is so beneficial for people around the world. No wonder the British are sometimes seen as selfish if they get worked up about this. (or more accurately ITV-lovers who wish they had something good enough to be closed down by the Tories).
Nope, I'm afraid it's another no brainer from IDS.
Square Eyes posted:
But why is it for the BBC to produce a "public service" website funded by the tax payer in this country for use on the world wide web ? Does it say in the charter that they must provide this service ?
What areas of media do the BBC want to get into next ? Perhaps a free sheet newspaper distributed throughout the world funded by the British taxpayer ?
What areas of media do the BBC want to get into next ? Perhaps a free sheet newspaper distributed throughout the world funded by the British taxpayer ?
It didn't say they had to get into television. Where would we be if they had decided to stay out of it?
Who cares if everyone in the world can see BBCi? There's something up if people are bothered about a few quid out of the licence fee (which most people on this forum probably don't have to pay yet) not being seen by their eyes only, especially when it is so beneficial for people around the world. No wonder the British are sometimes seen as selfish if they get worked up about this. (or more accurately ITV-lovers who wish they had something good enough to be closed down by the Tories).
Nope, I'm afraid it's another no brainer from IDS.
DU
The guy is a moron.
He said BBC3 is a dumbed down version of E4 and therefore pointless. Is there a UK produced program on E4? Spot the fundamental difference between the channels. Oh and then there's the actually quite intelligent programming on BBC3, which the Tory wouldn't know about...because he hasn't actually researched his brief at all. Interesting he isn't calling for BBC4 to close down (which has just one fifth of BBC3's audience)- presumably because he actually watches and likes that one. Welcome to genre TV...not every channel is designed for you, but all of the BBC channels are fulfilling a public service role.
The fact the guy is suggesting that the world's largest newsgathering operation doesn't have a internet-arm frankly negates all future comments he makes. He's an idiot.
And as a final point....as broadband takes off (once more fuelled by the BBC), more and more content can be specialised to stay within the UK (admittedly not necessarily to license-fee payers)
He said BBC3 is a dumbed down version of E4 and therefore pointless. Is there a UK produced program on E4? Spot the fundamental difference between the channels. Oh and then there's the actually quite intelligent programming on BBC3, which the Tory wouldn't know about...because he hasn't actually researched his brief at all. Interesting he isn't calling for BBC4 to close down (which has just one fifth of BBC3's audience)- presumably because he actually watches and likes that one. Welcome to genre TV...not every channel is designed for you, but all of the BBC channels are fulfilling a public service role.
The fact the guy is suggesting that the world's largest newsgathering operation doesn't have a internet-arm frankly negates all future comments he makes. He's an idiot.
And as a final point....as broadband takes off (once more fuelled by the BBC), more and more content can be specialised to stay within the UK (admittedly not necessarily to license-fee payers)
:-(
A former member
Ohh firstly there are many many good reasons to vote Tory, but you need a high level of intelligence and common sense to realise why. I actually think they will
Oh yes BBC3 is verrry bad channel and if it was closed its programmes might even be enticed to BBC4.
Perhaps it's a mistake closing BBCi but then of course it would lead the way to ITV Being able to have the better site and they probably wouldn't do it anyway.
Oh yes BBC3 is verrry bad channel and if it was closed its programmes might even be enticed to BBC4.
Perhaps it's a mistake closing BBCi but then of course it would lead the way to ITV Being able to have the better site and they probably wouldn't do it anyway.
CA
3 and 4 have been total disasters, and I certainly wouldn't miss them.
The idea that the Tories could, let alone would, shut down the BBCi operation (hello job losses caused directly by the government) is ridiculous. They just would not be able to without getting possibly millions of protests from around the world; it simply could not happen.
Could they introduce advertising to it? Yes, quite easily, and I think they should while they can. The (reasonable) argument for not introducing advertising on BBC 1/2/3/4/etc is that it would demolish the advertising revenue for the other commercial channels practically overnight - fair argument. But the internet market of very good news websites isn't saturated enough - nor are they making enough profit - to cause a similar effect.
I'd support the introduction of advertising to BBC Websites, and I think the launch of digital services in 1997 was an opportunity missed then. It wouldn't impact the market quite so serverely if for now only the digital channels took adverts.
The idea that the Tories could, let alone would, shut down the BBCi operation (hello job losses caused directly by the government) is ridiculous. They just would not be able to without getting possibly millions of protests from around the world; it simply could not happen.
Could they introduce advertising to it? Yes, quite easily, and I think they should while they can. The (reasonable) argument for not introducing advertising on BBC 1/2/3/4/etc is that it would demolish the advertising revenue for the other commercial channels practically overnight - fair argument. But the internet market of very good news websites isn't saturated enough - nor are they making enough profit - to cause a similar effect.
I'd support the introduction of advertising to BBC Websites, and I think the launch of digital services in 1997 was an opportunity missed then. It wouldn't impact the market quite so serverely if for now only the digital channels took adverts.
CO
Katherine, as a fine Lincolnshire lass, I am surprised that you have never heard the expression,
"to cut off one's nose to spite one's face"
Millions of voters do it every time a national election is held.
Katherine posted:
Isn't this sole reason to vote Tory outweighed by several million reasons to NOT vote Tory though?
Katherine, as a fine Lincolnshire lass, I am surprised that you have never heard the expression,
"to cut off one's nose to spite one's face"
Millions of voters do it every time a national election is held.
NH
I hope you've got copyright clearance from Charlie Windsor for the use of that line, Mr Mercy!
Nick Harvey
Founding member
tvmercia posted:
i'd describe it as a monstrous lump which has been built on the edge of the world wide web to make the place look untidy.
I hope you've got copyright clearance from Charlie Windsor for the use of that line, Mr Mercy!
KA
Katherine, as a fine Lincolnshire lass, I am surprised that you have never heard the expression,
"to cut off one's nose to spite one's face"
I've heard of it but haven't got a clue what it means....
Katherine
Founding member
Corin posted:
Katherine posted:
Isn't this sole reason to vote Tory outweighed by several million reasons to NOT vote Tory though?
Katherine, as a fine Lincolnshire lass, I am surprised that you have never heard the expression,
"to cut off one's nose to spite one's face"
I've heard of it but haven't got a clue what it means....
:-(
A former member
The Tories haven't got any strong policies. The only thing I hear from IDS nowadays is his pathetic little line during PMQ's "You can't believe a word the Prime Minister says"
At least William Hague gave B liar a good run for his money during clashes in the HoC.
At least William Hague gave B liar a good run for his money during clashes in the HoC.