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Inspector Sands12,188 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Have they really always been recorded? I thought the original idents were generated live and reacted to the voice of the announcer.

They did react to the voice of the announcer.... but it didn't care where the announcers voice was live or Memorex
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Rich Tea155 posts since 16 Apr 2017
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If 1986 is going to be shown then I suppose The Story Of 1986 must be in pre-production or production right now.

Has this been confirmed yet?

Another very odd blunder currently showing on the Freeview TV guide for the late showing TOTP. Listing the acts appearing and amongst them it names an unknown and totally fictitious (presumably) group called "Winterset" who most definitely are not in the line up. Has anyone else seen this?
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andyd 130223 posts since 19 Apr 2017
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If 1986 is going to be shown then I suppose The Story Of 1986 must be in pre-production or production right now.

Has this been confirmed yet?


Another very odd blunder currently showing on the Freeview TV guide for the late showing TOTP. Listing the acts appearing and amongst them it names an unknown and totally fictitious (presumably) group called "Winterset" who most definitely are not in the line up. Has anyone else seen this?


It was confirmed in the letters pages of the Radio Times about a Month ago Rich, so presumably it's the usual two for one Year deal.

Re "Winterset" we're only in September, so one can only speculate which mind-bending substance the Beeb's data entry clerk has been using, though it could be the same geezer that timeshifts primetime BBC4 & turns it into the pop picking equivalent of a false start at the Grand National. Rolling Eyes

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Rich Tea155 posts since 16 Apr 2017
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On occasion the vibe at "the other place" can be like a reverse trip to Lourdes, and certainly has the potential to make you sick after visiting . Laughing


Really? A shame if that is your genuine perception. I don't think there is as much substantive meat to get into with 1985 like there was with previous years and I never used to find it hard to find plenty of interest to contribute, but '85 and this weeks show leaves me struggling somewhat.

Stevie Wonder at No3 with Part Time Lover. Not a song that I think is thought about favourably. I recall it getting trashed by Morrissey on Round Table at the time in his unique manner of putting something down. It still astounds me that here in autumn 1985 with this song was the last time Stevie Wonder went top ten with a solo record of his. I still don't quite understand his almost overnight sales decline after years of consistency.

Simon Bates did not seem to make a detectable "Simesism" error this week. The body language very much made him look like he felt he was the senior partner against Peter Powell, despite them both being on the show for many years at this stage.

Only recently found out that Simon Bates used to also do many of the BBC voiceovers for their TV programmes and schedule trailers in this period of the 80's. I never even noticed at the time.

I grant him guilty pleasure status. I like him on TOTP.
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andyd 130223 posts since 19 Apr 2017
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On occasion the vibe at "the other place" can be like a reverse trip to Lourdes, and certainly has the potential to make you sick after visiting . Laughing


Really? A shame if that is your genuine perception. I don't think there is as much substantive meat to get into with 1985 like there was with previous years and I never used to find it hard to find plenty of interest to contribute, but '85 and this weeks show leaves me struggling somewhat.

Stevie Wonder at No3 with Part Time Lover. Not a song that I think is thought about favourably. I recall it getting trashed by Morrissey on Round Table at the time in his unique manner of putting something down. It still astounds me that here in autumn 1985 with this song was the last time Stevie Wonder went top ten with a solo record of his. I still don't quite understand his almost overnight sales decline after years of consistency.

Simon Bates did not seem to make a detectable "Simesism" error this week. The body language very much made him look like he felt he was the senior partner against Peter Powell, despite them both being on the show for many years at this stage.

Only recently found out that Simon Bates used to also do many of the BBC voiceovers for their TV programmes and schedule trailers in this period of the 80's. I never even noticed at the time.

I grant him guilty pleasure status. I like him on TOTP.


BIB: Just my little jokette but based in some truth as there does seem to be more bad-tempered forum users per square foot at 'the other place' generally, (Politics forum especially), but perhaps it's due to there being just more users.

Some crackerjack posters there too though as you know...

Anyhows, will try to do a 'Caper' on the Poptastic Bates Experience in due course, but some initial thoughts on 'the Pops'.

Red Box - Ridiculously overmanned on percussion. Two drummers could've been dispensed with in a 'Time & Motion' study, leaving the enthusiastic woman drummer (wommer?) & the two main blokes. Shouty, picket-line earworm, rather good and purchased.

Madge - Good album track, cobbled together chopped ham & pork video (reconstituted). Ker-ching! said Warners. Better tracks unreleased as single A-sides from "Like a Virgin", such as...





Midge - Terrible coat, terrible dancing, looks like he's 'squeezing one out' when he's pondering on life as a sailor. Song getting a bashing at 'the other place' but I liked it, even though I preferred the follow up.

Breakers
Cameo - The nasal whine of the talking codpiece. Didn't really 'get' Cameo but liked this, Word Up & She's Strange.

Rene & Angela - Decently structured soul with squelchy bits. I approve.

Billy Idol - Hell yeah! Stone cold classic that clears away the cobwebs (like his stiff Porcupine/Bog-brushy hair)

Lloyd Cole & the Commotions - Overrated 6th form-y nonsense from a bloke that can't sing (see also Tom Waits & Leonard Cohen). Follow-up much better.

David Bowie & Mick Jagger - Great fun, hard to dislike with the video but if it's on a CD it's normally a skipper.

Colonel Abrams - Saving the best one 'til a playout, this one's class.

The Poptastic/Bates pairing seems more relaxed than a Poptastic/'Bloke who Fixed our Boiler' combo. I thought Poptastic struggled to hide his irritation with Mike Smith on a previous episode & Slimes did seem a safer bet.

Apart from the BBC voiceovers, I also remember Simon Bates doing the intro warnings for the Video Standards Council, most of which were probably fast-forwarded Laughing



Sent up brilliantly here , by someone who seems vaguely familiar...

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Rich Tea155 posts since 16 Apr 2017
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Midge and Madge on TOTP, all we needed was a Mary..... yeah I know it was Mungo before anyone shouts.

For some reason since I saw Midge do If I Was recently I've had a bit more appreciation for the track. I certainly agree with his strangely oversized coat, not to mention his high up Cowellesque trousers underneath. His appearance looked a bit awkward. Going solo was probably not as easy as it seemed. I also think Midge needed his guitar to give the appearance more strength. I don't think he knew what to do with his hands half the time, a bit like a certain Prince Chaz who often fiddles with his cufflinks on walkabouts.

What I will say about Midge Ure is that he can seriously hack it still. Like Stevie Wonder he's another whose hits more or less dried up overnight at this very point in 1985 after he achieved the No1. Infact it's quite depressing to notice just how many major acts who were still having big hits in 1985 and had done so for many years then suddenly had nothing of real size or note again.

Always like a good puff of dry ice. Not used enough nowadays. It's due a revival. BRING BACK DRY ICE!


A bit unkind about Lloyd Cole there Andy. I looked up his twitter to see how he scrubs up nowadays and those who knew him in the 80's would still instantly recognise him today. All the hair, just a tint of grey. I love his latest tweet on Friday night when he placed a comment about Hot Wheels being 50 that day, that piqued my interest as I've still got mine, although they're nearer 35 to 40 - https://twitter.com/Lloyd_Cole/status/997511534975864833

You dared utter the invisible man's name, Mike Smith. Yes of course it's idiotic he's not being shown, as if he was bigger than TOTP and owned the show with not one other presenter having issue with being broadcast. Although I can't help but think this is actually a fully owned BBC choice rather than Smith or his estate. Having said that, I don't miss him in the least, compared to how I missed the editions of Savile and DLT (dare I utter those initials here) when they were pulled. Infact I'd go even further and say that leaving Mike Smith out of the running order has actually improved things - except for the songs we miss of course. I've nothing against him at all, but he was just so incredibly bland. Golden boy at the BBC for a period in the 1980's certainly seems to have become completely persona non grata.

Great to hear Gary Davies, Radio 1's Tuesday afternoon chart reveal man in 1985 for us of a certain age, taking over Sounds Of The 80's on Radio 2 on Friday night just gone. I listened to his show on the BBC Radio app yesterday and such a good choice. It melts the time away completely just hearing him back.
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andyd 130223 posts since 19 Apr 2017
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I suppose with Lloyd Cole I tend to lump him in with other vaguely pretentious stuff that's interestingly jingly-jangly, but doesn't seem to fulfill it's potential ("Perfect Skin" & "Lost Weekend" being exceptions).

It doesn't float my boat somehow, there doesn't seem as much meat on the musical bone (unlike the Smiths) & I think of LC & the Comms in similar terms as the Blow Monkeys, in they had a couple of decent tracks but I found their other stuff a bit "close but no cigar".

Also, in this LC one the lyrics I find a source of irritation (I know, I need to get out more)

"Jane was in her turtleneck
I was much happier then"


Just buy her a new turtleneck then Lloyd if it makes you happier, you miserable tight get! Laughing

Other than that...!
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andyd 130223 posts since 19 Apr 2017
HTV Wales Wales Today
If you're invite got lost in the post, fear not!
As zero compensation whatsoever, pop pickers are cordially invited to...

The Countdown Capers
19th September 1985 (Our TuneLord & Poptastic Pete)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0b23fcv/top-of-the-pops-19091985

This Week's merriment is presided over by Our TuneLord and a much more energised Poptastic Pete, relieved no doubt at finally managing to extricate himself from the short-strawed pairing with "the Bloke who Fixed our Boiler" .

Herr Hurll was right to separate the two, as on previous episodes Poptastic looked like he was going to stick one on Mike Smith at any given moment, which might have temporarily given the ratings a lift but wouldn't have been appropriate prior to introducing Jennifer Rush.

A pairing with Simon Bates would have some scurrying for the nearest exit, but Poptastic seems infinitely more at ease with Our Tune and following extensive research lasting no more than 0.33 seconds according to the Google clock, since retiring from the Pops Simes has taken an interest in the countryside, all things farming-related & has also become an expert on how to upset Liverpudlians Rolling Eyes

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/bbc-says-dj-simon-bates-10770451

There's some random stuff in Farmer Bates "Top 10 things you don't know about me" at the link below, taking in areas of inexpertise as Japanese Brush Painting, pilotry straight from the Gary Numan School of Aviation & Our TuneLord's incarceration in an Ethiopian Jail where he was swiftly released, presumably as an act of mercy for the guards Laughing

Click if you dare, but don't stray from the path.
http://www.devonlife.co.uk/people/celebrity-interviews/simon-bates-talks-about-how-much-he-enjoys-living-and-working-in-devon-1-3953987

Having said all of the above I actually like Simon Bates as a presenter. He always comes across as friendly and amiable, like an uncle you'd go to if you have a problem. I always enjoyed the " Golden Hour " (and the ubiquitous "Our Tune" of course), both broadcast on FM at a time when "Gold" stations weren't as numerous as they are now.

Meanwhile, back at 'the Pops'..

18 - Red Robbo - Come On, I Lean (Aap-Kaa-Hak)

Initially sounding like a gentle theme to a programme you might find on CBeebies close to bedtime, Red Box make their debut with this "Buy one get two free" track, which from the sedate opening gathers momentum and eventually peaks into a rabble-rousing picket-line shouter straight from the days of Arthur Scargill & the Wheeltappers & Shunters Social Club.

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"Give Order! All those in favour of bringing on Five Star say aye"

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"Lean on Me" is a proper earworm, the chorus memorable for the right reasons, and it's hard not to be caught up in the exhuberance, so much so I succumbed, paid my dues and supported the cause.

It was a miracle the band got going in the first place however without going bust, as following negotiation involving the consiliation service ACAS, an agreement was reached that there would be no fewer than three members of the percussion department on duty during all television performances, despite two of the drummers being completely surplus to requirements & one missing the target completely.

It's what made Britain great Laughing

An excellent start and UP THE WORKERS!
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Rich Tea155 posts since 16 Apr 2017
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Thanks for your Capers Andy. Publishing them on two fronts now eh. They're well worth it. Excellent work. Thumbs up

Aah Jennifer Rush, she looked gorgeous in 1985, so why the heck did she have to go and carve her face up and get the awful trout pout look where she's probably had rather a large part of her derriere stuffed into her lips.

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andyd 130223 posts since 19 Apr 2017
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With you 100% on that one Riccardo. I don't understand it either.

I'm all for self-expression, but in what universe does a 'sleb feel the need to inject crap into their face (or other departments), in the misguided view it's somehow an elixir of life?

Most of the time it makes 'em look like a Cabbage Patch doll or they're permanently sucking a lozenge.

At the extreme end of the scale of course was Pete Burns, who should serve as a warning to anyone on the dangers of extreme cosmetic surgery. With him it started off with a broken nose he got in the punk era of the 1970's, which started him on the journey from this...

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To this... Shocked

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Frightening.

Re Jennifer Rush, there's a QI interview from South Africa from a couple of Years ago on 'ver Tube. For some reason I didn't think she was American, probably due to her massive success in Europe (particularly Germany ISTR).

Terrible interviewer though..

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