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Past its prime? (July 2006)

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MS
Mr-Stabby
Just noticed on one of the episodes that Jason Dawes even does a segment on buying really old used cars like Nissan Sunny's, Vauxhall Astras and Citroen AXs. Boring!! Shocked I can see why they got rid of him to be honest.
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A former member
Why is that boring? Top Gear as it is now has no stuff on "normal cars for normal people". To be honest, although I think TG is brilliant, the bits where they review "expensive footballer's car number 327" and drool all over it are the ones that get really samey after a while.

No, Jason Dawe's stuff isn't boring, it just doesn't fit with Clarkson's ego.
DA
DAS Founding member
But if you want that, tune into Fifth Gear. There's no point doing the same thing. When the BBC brought Top Gear back, there was no intention of resurrecting items about the taxing of Citroen AXs. Jason Dawe just didn't fit in with the new turn and, in the context of what people tune into Top Gear for, such stuff is... boring.
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A former member
DAS posted:
But if you want that, tune into Fifth Gear. There's no point doing the same thing. When the BBC brought Top Gear back, there was no intention of resurrecting items about the taxing of Citroen AXs. Jason Dawe just didn't fit in with the new turn and, in the context of what people tune into Top Gear for, such stuff is... boring.


Yes, I agree that it didn't fit, but calling such things boring is a silly thing to say. By the same token, I don't like Big Brother, so I'm going to unilaterally declare it boring, and that's that.

You're viewing things here in hindsight. The fact of the matter is that TG simply didn't have the direction you're endowing it with when it first came back. They initially tried to make it a cross between a serious programme and a comedy, eventually the frivolity won out. The programme barely qualifies as a car show these days, it can go entire episodes without mentioning one concrete fact.
DA
DAS Founding member
And I'd agree with that, but then we're getting into the issue of subjectivity and what we all like and don't like. Circular argument time. Either way, I bet Jason Dawe lies awake thinking "what if".
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A former member
Maybe, maybe not. But his show on M&M seems to be doing well enough, and in its own way it's just as good as TG.
MS
Mr-Stabby
Is it coincidence that your name is Jason? Smile

No but really, the whole point of a show like Top Gear is to give people a glimpse of what they could never have. We love the excitement of seeing a brand new Koenigsegg on TV because we're never going to see it anywhere else, unless we win the lottery or whatever.

If we want to see the advantages of a second hand Nissan Sunny, or a Citroen AX, we can go down to our local second hand dealer. Seeing stuff like that on TV isn't interesting in my view, because it's something we could quite easily do ourselves, and that's why i think Jasons segments inparticular were just not right for Top Gear. It's also why i didn't actually like old Top Gear that much because they did do a lot of that sort of stuff.
GM
nodnirG kraM
jason posted:
The programme barely qualifies as a car show these days, it can go entire episodes without mentioning one concrete fact.

Which is of course true but, as you've said yourself, this is missing the whole point of the show as it stands today.

If you want a car show to tell you which quality, value family hatchback to buy, watch a different show. If you want a car show to give information on emissions and safety tests, watch a different show. If you want a car show that takes itself seriously, watch a different show.

Top Gear 2006 is not about cars, about pissing about in them. Having fun with cars. Doing things you wouldn't normally think of doing ... with cars!
GM
nodnirG kraM
Johnny83 posted:
Just one quick question there was a big fella by the name of Jason (I think) in the first series of the New Top Gear but he was replaced by James May (a good move to add the posh bloke in the show), anyone know why at all?

Well blugger me with a wet fish - Regtransfers.co.uk's in-house magazine (this week's guest publication) has a column by none other than cheerful, bouncy Jason Dawe. Or as they put it "respected newspaper columnist and TV presenter".

According to them:
regtransfers.co.uk Magazine posted:
Jason Dawe writes a weekly used car column in the Sunday Times. He worked Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear and now presents the Used Car Roadshow on ITV's Men and Motors at 9pm on Monday nights.

As a former car salesman, Jason has 20 years (sic) experience in the motor industry and is acknowledged as the country's leading used car expert. You can contact Jason......
blah de blah de blah.
CY
cylon6
nodnirG kraM posted:
Johnny83 posted:
Just one quick question there was a big fella by the name of Jason (I think) in the first series of the New Top Gear but he was replaced by James May (a good move to add the posh bloke in the show), anyone know why at all?

Well blugger me with a wet fish - Regtransfers.co.uk's in-house magazine (this week's guest publication) has a column by none other than cheerful, bouncy Jason Dawe. Or as they put it "respected newspaper columnist and TV presenter".

According to them:
regtransfers.co.uk Magazine posted:
Jason Dawe writes a weekly used car column in the Sunday Times. He worked Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear and now presents the Used Car Roadshow on ITV's Men and Motors at 9pm on Monday nights.

As a former car salesman, Jason has 20 years (sic) experience in the motor industry and is acknowledged as the country's leading used car expert. You can contact Jason......
blah de blah de blah.


Jason Dull as Ditchwater Dawe is a nice man but he has no personality, no wit and he had NO chemistry with Clarkson and Hammond. When James May was brought in that was the final piece in the jigsaw and the show really took off and became an award winner.

People should just accept the fact that Dawe was crap on the show.
DA
Davidjb Founding member
Top Gear is just Grand these days. Where else do you see a McClaren Mercedes SLR doing tonne 60 legally on a road with two people trying to beat it to Norway on public transport?

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