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Tommy Cooper's Death

(January 2010)

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FU
fusionlad Founding member
I agree it's a good point that no one forced me to click on the link. Although maybe through ignorance, I never knew that it was quite so graphic.

If the discussion was about how the producers coped with something so unusual and serious, then I'm all for that. Maybe if Slingers has said the video is freely available on the internet, we could have researched the clip ourselves if we felt the need.

It has sparked an interesting discussion though.
AS
Asa Admin
I think it's down to individuals to decide on whether they wish to watch it, although I will de-link it to make it less likely to be clicked. I think it's down to YouTube to remove the clip if felt necessary.

The subject itself is one of those extraordinary moments in British television and the posts have been sensible, so for now I don't think the topic should be deleted.
MA
Maaixuew
But wouldn't removing the link make people want to access it more? If you catch my drift.
:-(
A former member
But wouldn't removing the link make people want to access it more? If you catch my drift.


But then no one is forcing anyone to click it, its been clearly marked and also states what the clip is all about,

Isn't this also how Eric Morecambe pass away live on stage?


Apparently the whole show isn't openly available within the LWT/ITV archives, it's been locked in with Julian Clary's Fisting comment at the British Comedy Awards in the early 1990s.

that is not true as there put it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com / watch?v=iAU7pATH5_M
DA
David
Apparently the whole show isn't openly available within the LWT/ITV archives, it's been locked in with Julian Clary's Fisting comment at the British Comedy Awards in the early 1990s.

that is not true as there put it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com / watch?v=iAU7pATH5_M


Although that's the YouTube channel of the Comedy Awards themselves (or the production company anyway) rather than LWT/ITV so the original comment could be true. It doesn't matter how securely something has been locked away if someone else already has a copy.
MM
MMB
Regardless of any comments - someones passing should not be available to watch on YouTube. Imagine how the family would feel if they came across it.
PT
Put The Telly On
Isn't this also how Eric Morecambe pass away live on stage?


Eric Morecambe collapsed in his dressing room I think.

According to Jimmy Tarbuck, he (Jimmy) was waiting in the wings and came on after the break but Tommy's feet were still visible as they tried to resusitate him.

It's a very sad and tragic television moment and I suppose it hints to that topic in the other thread about live television.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
I have to agree with davidlees, no one forced anyone to view it, I watch it, it was sad, but it is a PIECE of tv history, and you can NOT just white wash history you don't like, also I do not found it to be that graphic.


People will click because there's a link to click to. Not everyone is as prepared as you are to see a man dying before their eyes. Its not an image that leaves one's conciousness easily.

You might not find seeing a man die "graphic" - but actually that doesn't reflect terribly well on you, I have to say.

Just my opinion.
MG
MikeGNE
ITV are happy to make money from the photograph stills of this incident. They're accessible on rex features.
LL
Larry the Loafer
I did hesitate a lot before I watched this clip for the first time a while ago. I had been told about it seeming as if "he was just sitting down" and that it wasn't anything graphic or shocking. If you didn't know what was actually occuring, you probably would assume it was part of his act.

I find the clip more uncomfortable than upsetting and, to be fair, it was his last performance, so techincally, the clip is worthy for at least something. As it's been said in previous posts, it's still history.

P.s. I've just checked rexfeatures out of curiousity and I actually find the stills a lot more haunting than the clip
AN
Ant
I have no interest in seeing the clip. If it was someone I knew and people were watching their death on YouTube I wouldn't exactly be happy about it.

I can understand it's a part of "television history" but I don't want my lasting image of Tommy Cooper to be that of him lying dead on stage.
BT
Baroness Trumpington
Was the break a planned one? The cue dot seems to come on just as Cooper falls, but at that stage not even the gallery would have known there was a problem, would they? That makes me think the ad break was planned. The adverts come on after the cue dot had been on screen for just 15 seconds which I think it's a bit quicker than normal so maybe the break was played out earlier than planned.

It was! They were due to go to a break at the end of Cooper's act. The dot was up as a "roughly 1-2 minutes" warning. When the OB Director at the venue (Al McMillan, I think) realised there was something drastically wrong, he took a very rapid (and sensible) decision to cue the End of Part routine, while giving LWT Pres as much warning as he could - ie None! During the break, Jimmy Tarbuck was grabbed from his Dressing Room and briefed to go on and fill until told otherwise. Being a true Pro he did exactly that, while behind him, further back on the stage behind the curtain, the ambulance crew tried to resuscitate Cooper.
Last edited by Baroness Trumpington on 23 January 2010 8:39am

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