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Time-shifted channels

Do we really need them nowadays? (October 2018)

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DV
dvboy
I use them a fair bit since I only have a single satellite feed I often have to record things from +1 when there's a clash.
I don't have 100% faith that every programme I want to see with be available on a catch up service later, and sometimes I'll want to keep them longer than they are available for.
IS
Inspector Sands
This time of year +1s become very useful. Two tuners on my PVR and Wednesday night is full of stuff I want to record - Apprentice, Taskmaster, Don't Tell the Bride, Grand Designs. Can't even record it all with the plus ones
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member

But of course the advent of catch-up and On-Demand also solves recording clashes by not having to record at all where said programme is available on demand.


On Demand's still a bit of a faff compared to playing a recording - particularly if it comes with unskippable ads.


Which is why I'm quite a fan of ITV Hub on Sky - no adverts. Unique I believe compared to the Hub on other platforms. Although it does go to serve how much of a programme slot adverts take these days, best part of 12/13 minutes per hour.
IS
Inspector Sands
For me it's the far of having two or more separate players. I'd much rather have everything I watch on a single PVR hard drive than have to remember what it is I missed last night and hunt it out on an on demand service which might not work or still be on there anyway.

Though I often use the directory of my PVR as a list of things I need to watch and then if I'm travelling or bored at work I'll watch them on iplayer etc instead
NG
noggin Founding member
For me it's the far of having two or more separate players. I'd much rather have everything I watch on a single PVR hard drive than have to remember what it is I missed last night and hunt it out on an on demand service which might not work or still be on there anyway.

Though I often use the directory of my PVR as a list of things I need to watch and then if I'm travelling or bored at work I'll watch them on iplayer etc instead


Yep - and with Sky you get that Smile iPlayer, ITV Hub, All4 and Sky content all sits in the same planner as your off-air recordings, and search is global if you want to find stuff too. It's not perfect - but it's better than any other TV platform I've seen so far, though Sky doesn't offer 'watch from start' on BBC shows AFAIK (or any live shows) unlike the new Freeview option.
OF
OF992
OF992 posted:
We know that many television channels have a +1 or +2 time-shift,

Are there any +2 channels still around these days? The last one I recall was DMAX +2.

+2 channels are mainly in different countries. I'm not just talking about the UK.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
For me it's the far of having two or more separate players. I'd much rather have everything I watch on a single PVR hard drive than have to remember what it is I missed last night and hunt it out on an on demand service which might not work or still be on there anyway.

Though I often use the directory of my PVR as a list of things I need to watch and then if I'm travelling or bored at work I'll watch them on iplayer etc instead


Yep - and with Sky you get that Smile iPlayer, ITV Hub, All4 and Sky content all sits in the same planner as your off-air recordings, and search is global if you want to find stuff too. It's not perfect - but it's better than any other TV platform I've seen so far, though Sky doesn't offer 'watch from start' on BBC shows AFAIK (or any live shows) unlike the new Freeview option.


Not for BBC shows but that's presumably because nothing on Sky streams, it all downloads to the box and plays from there.
BR
Brekkie
OF992 posted:
OF992 posted:
We know that many television channels have a +1 or +2 time-shift,

Are there any +2 channels still around these days? The last one I recall was DMAX +2.

+2 channels are mainly in different countries. I'm not just talking about the UK.

Common in Australia where they work due to the time difference. I think the US has +3 channels, but not branded as such - basically an East and a West version of the same channel.
MI
Mike516
On RTÉ One+1's satellite feed, even Aertel teletext is one hour behind!
TI
TIGHazard
For me it's the far of having two or more separate players. I'd much rather have everything I watch on a single PVR hard drive than have to remember what it is I missed last night and hunt it out on an on demand service which might not work or still be on there anyway.

Though I often use the directory of my PVR as a list of things I need to watch and then if I'm travelling or bored at work I'll watch them on iplayer etc instead


Yep - and with Sky you get that Smile iPlayer, ITV Hub, All4 and Sky content all sits in the same planner as your off-air recordings, and search is global if you want to find stuff too. It's not perfect - but it's better than any other TV platform I've seen so far, though Sky doesn't offer 'watch from start' on BBC shows AFAIK (or any live shows) unlike the new Freeview option.


Pretty sure Virgin does the same thing as Sky, though I'm not exactly sure how it works. Sometimes I've seen iPlayer or All4 stuff in My Shows if I've been watching something then missed it and not recorded it (Eastenders for example), other times not.

Global search too - TV, Catch up and Netflix.
WO
Woodpecker
At their simplest, +1 channels are just a video server on a 1 hour delay (with an additional bug-burner), but I believe they have to be licensed by Ofcom as channels in their own right, so the content can vary from the 'base' channel as required.


I remember this being discussed on 'another forum' round about 2007 - at that point, AFAIK, +1 channels were not required to be licensed, as they were just relaying the feed of their parent channels. I mention this because on said forum, there was a thread (that may have been part of another thread) which discussed new Ofcom licenses, and there was much surprise when a spate of +1 licenses began to appear.

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