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Whataday10,656 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
There's still no proof. Let's take your "undeniable facts" in order


I didn't say any of that was proof. In fact I said it wasn't. And you can say "undeniable facts" if you want, but each of the points I listed is true, irrelevant of the honesty of the people involved.

You clearly have a horse in this race already. I'm just open to discussion about it. There's certainly enough speculation and allegations for us to be able to discuss it being a possibility.
mannewskev535 posts since 2 Sep 2011 Recently warned
There's still no proof. Let's take your "undeniable facts" in order


I didn't say any of that was proof. In fact I said it wasn't. And you can say "undeniable facts" if you want, but each of the points I listed is true, irrelevant of the honesty of the people involved.

You clearly have a horse in this race already. I'm just open to discussion about it. There's certainly enough speculation and allegations for us to be able to discuss it being a possibility.


You said "undeniable facts" It was a quote. A quote from you.

Each of the points you listed isn't true.

I don't have a "horse in this race". (Seriously..?!!) That's just your transparent attempt, apropos of nothing, to undermine my position and deflect from the weakness of your argument.

I'm open to discussion too. That's why I'm engaging in a discussion. It seems you're attempting to shut down a position contrary to yours, albeit it unsuccessfully.
Whataday10,656 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
Then of course there was the time of Blind Date where she basically announced she was quitting at the end of the series live on air without telling the producers in advance!


There's more to that story. She did it because they had changed the format of Blind Date radically.




I've also heard a bit more to that story that they offered the hosting role to another famous presenter behind Cilla's back who then contacted her to tell her.
Whataday10,656 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
Each of the points you listed isn't true.


Let me know where I've been untrue:

Amanda Holden has gone on record with her allegations.
Hasn't she?

The relationship between Fern Britton and Phillip clearly disintegrated towards the end of Fern's tenure.
Hadn't it?

Fern and Phillip had a particularly acrimonious exchange on This Morning's 30th Birthday.
Didn't they?

Fern's former agent has gone on record basically backing up Amanda Holden.
Hasn't he?

Veteran agent Mike Hollingsworth has gone on record claiming Phillip had a veto on the guests if he didn't like them.
Hasn't he?



Each statement is true. And while you say you're open to discussion, repeatedly saying there's no proof implies the opposite.
Cando1,638 posts since 8 Mar 2012
London London
Has he actually directly denied getting Amanda dropped from the Autumn cover? She said this well before her Heart gig was announced.

It's clear to see from casually watching over the years he wants a sidekick on This Morning not a co presenter.
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mannewskev535 posts since 2 Sep 2011 Recently warned
Each of the points you listed isn't true.


Let me know where I've been untrue:

Amanda Holden has gone on record with her allegations.
Hasn't she?

The relationship between Fern Britton and Phillip clearly disintegrated towards the end of Fern's tenure.
Hadn't it?

Fern and Phillip had a particularly acrimonious exchange on This Morning's 30th Birthday.
Didn't they?

Fern's former agent has gone on record basically backing up Amanda Holden.
Hasn't he?

Veteran agent Mike Hollingsworth has gone on record claiming Phillip had a veto on the guests if he didn't like them.
Hasn't he?


Each statement is true. And while you say you're open to discussion, repeatedly saying there's no proof implies the opposite.



These are the points that weren't true:
The relationship between Fern Britton and Phillip clearly disintegrated towards the end of Fern's tenure.
I've covered this previously.

Fern and Phillip had a particularly acrimonious exchange on This Morning's 30th Birthday.
I've covered this previously also.

Thus, each of the points you listed weren't true, and none of them equate to there being proof of any poor behaviour by Phillip Schofield. Noted that you didn't address my other points. Understandable though.

Finally, as I mentioned previously, your attempts to undermine my position are completely transparent, this suggesting it is indeed you who is not open to discussion. I am, hence this engagement.
Whataday10,656 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
Has he actually directly denied getting Amanda dropped from the Autumn cover?


No, he's only denied what's being peddled by nameless "sources".

It's clear to see from casually watching over the years he wants a sidekick on This Morning not a co presenter.


One thing we know is that Phil insisted on Holly for the This Morning job. Holly has confirmed this on numerous occasions. It was widely reported at the time that ITV wanted Emma Forbes.
Jonwo (previously Jonwo87) 948 posts since 20 Sep 2007
Has he actually directly denied getting Amanda dropped from the Autumn cover? She said this well before her Heart gig was announced.

It's clear to see from casually watching over the years he wants a sidekick on This Morning not a co presenter.


The irony is that there is a chance that Holly will unsurp Phil and he'll be relegated to sidekick.
Whataday10,656 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
Has he actually directly denied getting Amanda dropped from the Autumn cover? She said this well before her Heart gig was announced.

It's clear to see from casually watching over the years he wants a sidekick on This Morning not a co presenter.


The irony is that there is a chance that Holly will unsurp Phil and he'll be relegated to sidekick.


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mr_vivian
UTV Newsline
To be fair I'd be a bit peeved at that cover. The interview was clearly meant to promote their partnership on This Morning, but the headline is plain nasty.


It was definitely designed to cause trouble. Phil is more than experienced about this kinda stuff by now and he knows Holly well enough by now to know she's not like that. I can't see any change in their behaviour at all and in fact they were on holiday together just weeks ago

It has provoked the reaction they had hoped for from Phil.

At the end of the day you don't get to be where they are without upsetting someone along the way and their "enemies" come out of the shadows around things like this.