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JB
JasonB London London
Johnr posted:
Michael Underwood is an actual teacher these days?!

Doing a interview with This Morning whilst teaching his class is pretty unique... Very Happy


Last time I saw him on TV was on Ministry of Mayhem in 2004 where he just suddenly left. It was a normal show and right at the end he announced he wasn't coming back the following year followed by a short compilation of his time on the show.
Have you washed your hands?
CM
cmthwtv West Country (East) Points West
BBC One aren’t going to air a live alternative. At most they will keep the 9am news but I highly doubt that. BBC One programmes manage to rate well - clearly with a different target audience to ITV
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NG
noggin Founding member

Why is a live show automatically better than a pre-recorded one?

It isn't, and the audiences for the BBC daytime offering from 0900-1430ish are usually higher than ITV's. (This Morning often wins a few 15 minute slots - but seldom wins its whole slot)

There are times, like now with the current Corona Virus situation, where a live daytime shows helps BBC One reflect what's happening in the country, and makes the schedule feel a bit more reactive, hence the current presence of shows like Health Check UK Live, Daily Kitchen Live, Your Money and Your Life etc. - but often pre-recorded shows do well for the audience, offer an alternative to This Morning (and are financially more sensible as they can add repeats into the mix, without them feeling too obvious...

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What about Doctors, which is offering original drama on daytime BBC1 nine months of the year? That has a massively loyal audience and is often the highest rated thing on daytime after the news. And there's no equivalent of that on ITV. That's in addition to shows like Father Brown and Shakespeare and Hathaway.


Precisely - the BBC Birmingham-produced daytime drama is a very good alternative, and a genre that ITV have kind of abandoned since the days of High Road... (The BBC daytime drama operation is a really good training ground for new talent too - directors, writers, actors all get good experience working on these shows)
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SW
Steve Williams
Precisely - the BBC Birmingham-produced daytime drama is a very good alternative, and a genre that ITV have kind of abandoned since the days of High Road... (The BBC daytime drama operation is a really good training ground for new talent too - directors, writers, actors all get good experience working on these shows)


Indeed. ITV did do something similar a few years ago, with The Royal Today and Crime Stories, but seemingly it was too expensive to continue with, whereas the Beeb have a prety much year-round commitment (with imports like The Heights and Red Rock to fill the gaps). As you say, it's such a valuable training ground for new talent as well.

As you mention, the Beeb does perfectly well in daytime and is ahead for most of the morning. They used to have more regular live stuff during the day, but much of it was dreadful. Open Air did alright but when This Morning started it just collapsed, and Anne and Nick was the most blatant rip-off.

And of course the Beeb do have their equivalent of This Morning in terms of its liveness and its ability to cover everything and its loyal audience, in The One Show.
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JO
Jonwo

Why is a live show automatically better than a pre-recorded one?

It isn't, and the audiences for the BBC daytime offering from 0900-1430ish are usually higher than ITV's. (This Morning often wins a few 15 minute slots - but seldom wins its whole slot)

There are times, like now with the current Corona Virus situation, where a live daytime shows helps BBC One reflect what's happening in the country, and makes the schedule feel a bit more reactive, hence the current presence of shows like Health Check UK Live, Daily Kitchen Live, Your Money and Your Life etc. - but often pre-recorded shows do well for the audience, offer an alternative to This Morning (and are financially more sensible as they can add repeats into the mix, without them feeling too obvious...

Quote:

What about Doctors, which is offering original drama on daytime BBC1 nine months of the year? That has a massively loyal audience and is often the highest rated thing on daytime after the news. And there's no equivalent of that on ITV. That's in addition to shows like Father Brown and Shakespeare and Hathaway.


Precisely - the BBC Birmingham-produced daytime drama is a very good alternative, and a genre that ITV have kind of abandoned since the days of High Road... (The BBC daytime drama operation is a really good training ground for new talent too - directors, writers, actors all get good experience working on these shows)


BBC Birmingham do really well to produce dramas on a tight budgets, I believe Father Brown and Shakespeare and Hathaway costs £250,000-300,000 an episode and they are sold across the world.
Last edited by Jonwo on 23 June 2020 6:56pm - 2 times in total
MI
m_in_m Anglia (East) Look East
Jonwo posted:

BBC Birmingham do really well to produce dramas on a tight budgets, I believe an episode of Father Brown and Shakespeare and Hathaway costs £250,000-300,000 an episode and they are sold across the world.

How does that compare to other dramas/soaps and Doctors?
CO
cobbles
Jonwo posted:

BBC Birmingham do really well to produce dramas on a tight budgets, I believe an episode of Father Brown and Shakespeare and Hathaway costs £250,000-300,000 an episode and they are sold across the world.

How does that compare to other dramas/soaps and Doctors?


The BBC won't tell you the budgets for their shows.
JO
Jonwo
Jonwo posted:

BBC Birmingham do really well to produce dramas on a tight budgets, I believe an episode of Father Brown and Shakespeare and Hathaway costs £250,000-300,000 an episode and they are sold across the world.

How does that compare to other dramas/soaps and Doctors?


The BBC won't tell you the budgets for their shows.


The tariffs are listed here:
http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/site/tariff_prices_for_independents.pdf
BR
Brekkie Recently warned Wales Wales Today
Jonwo posted:

BBC Birmingham do really well to produce dramas on a tight budgets, I believe an episode of Father Brown and Shakespeare and Hathaway costs £250,000-300,000 an episode and they are sold across the world.

How does that compare to other dramas/soaps and Doctors?


The BBC won't tell you the budgets for their shows.

CORRECTION: The BBC won't tell idiots who abuse the Freedom of Information Acts that information.

Tariffs have been publically available for the BBC and other channels for quite some time.
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VM
VMPhil Granada North West Today
Johnr posted:
Michael Underwood is an actual teacher these days?!

Doing a interview with This Morning whilst teaching his class is pretty unique... Very Happy

I noticed the other day that someone had changed his Wikipedia article intro to 'Michael Underwood was an English television presenter', which whilst possibly factually correct (has he given it up completely?) made it look as though he'd died. It's been changed back now.
JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
Yeah, if he is indeed retired from showbiz, putting "is an English former television presenter" would make sense. You don't put "was" if they're still alive.
JO
John Anglia (West) Look East (West sub-opt)
Precisely - the BBC Birmingham-produced daytime drama is a very good alternative, and a genre that ITV have kind of abandoned since the days of High Road... (The BBC daytime drama operation is a really good training ground for new talent too - directors, writers, actors all get good experience working on these shows)


Indeed. ITV did do something similar a few years ago, with The Royal Today and Crime Stories, but seemingly it was too expensive to continue with, whereas the Beeb have a prety much year-round commitment (with imports like The Heights and Red Rock to fill the gaps). As you say, it's such a valuable training ground for new talent as well.

As you mention, the Beeb does perfectly well in daytime and is ahead for most of the morning. They used to have more regular live stuff during the day, but much of it was dreadful. Open Air did alright but when This Morning started it just collapsed, and Anne and Nick was the most blatant rip-off.

And of course the Beeb do have their equivalent of This Morning in terms of its liveness and its ability to cover everything and its loyal audience, in The One Show.


This Morning was also a blatant rip-off of Pebble Mill at One with added phone ins.

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