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VA
valley
dvboy posted:
Pretty sure DigiGuide was listings this match on Sky One and Pick yesterday. Would have posted it here if I knew it was worth mentioning!

It was definitely a matter of when, rather than if, this announcement came.
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
It's all about value I guess - is an argument the impact of making 6th to 10th choice available on the price of 1st to 5th choice wouldn't be offset by the additional broadcast rights.

I certainly think the argument is there now for broadcasting all games and I imagine they have looked if that can be possible when fitting around the European, International and Cup dates. The big issue really is midweek - 6pm is fine when there are no fans, but a problem if there is.

I would also fear if all PL games were broadcast it might spell the end for Match of the Day, especially if at least one match per round became free to air. As great as free to air Premier League matches would be in the long term I suspect Match of the Day is of more value both to fans and indeed the Premier League.


MOTD is an institution and a cornerstone of what is left of the BBC's sports coverage. The broadcast of all PL games doesn't necessarily mean however we should say farewell to Gary and friends. On the contrary it may mean the programme could take on a new life.

Now what I'm about to say is going to be controversial and will undoubtedly cause ructions but if the EPL were ever free to air on Saturdays then MOTD would be right at the centre of it. Ok here goes...

Have Gary et al helming live coverage of an EPL as the match of the day. Start the programme at 2 PM with a look ahead to the televised match in particular as well as the others. Live coverage of the match with the half time break in the format of NBCSN's half time show. Following the second half a quick rundown of all the other matches.

Then at 5PM MOTD finishes on BBC1 and then on Red Button and have a review show.

What about Final Score I hear you cry. Keep the programme on RB and than at 5 hand over or segue into the review show. The new show called Extra Time will have space for discussions of the matches as well as live updates from 5.30 PM kickoffs


Now excuse me while I duck for cover.
CO
cobbles
What the televising all remaining 92 PL games somewhere will have shown, is how childish the current rules actually are.

I've said it before, it is strange that a Newcastle fan in Birmingham, Alabama could watch his team live in all 38 games of the season (subject to payment of a streaming season ticket via NBC Sports), yet a fan in Birmingham, England can't (unless they take to the dark arts of the interweb). Knowing you can go to most home matches as they'll be on a Saturday afternoon can be useful for fans who work during the week or odd shifts.

The 'well, he should go a buy a season ticket then at St James Park' is a weak one, with many valid practical and person circumstance reasons why that may not be possible.

I've enjoyed watching games being played on all days and at all times, and hope that until a certain percentage of home ground season ticketed fans are allowed in safely, that this will carry over into next season - and a '38 game season ticket' rights deal be written into the next round of UK/Ire live rights deals.


Its not just childish, its downright silly. I don't condone piracy but I can understand why it happens. The PL are not just greedy bar-stewards but are in a way traitors to the English fans with the bloody stupid 3PM rule. When the restrictions are removed fans will simply return. The seats will be full again and the bank accounts will be full.

Many who won't or cant go to the grounds will be left out again. Then they will turn to piracy and the EPL will bleat again

Here's an idea. Drop The Restrictions, Cretins!


It's not an EPL rule in that they want it - they'd happily televise every match and schedule the fixtures in order to do so, it's a concession to the EFL and lower leagues who usually KO at 3pm to assure them, it's also a concession to fan groups whose regularly opines on Sky Sports moving fixtures (particularly away ones) are surreptitiously removed from televised crowd noise. When stadiums are empty 3pm Saturday KOs make a fair bit of sense.

As others have said though, as a Newcastle fan stranded the other side of the country, there's still ways of seeing the matches, surely Sky etc would be better to capitalise but the issue isn't those fans and that team, it's the fear that fans won't go to Burton Albion v Stevenage because Man City v Man Utd is televised at the 3pm KO time....

To be honest, I think as long as stadiums are empty, or partially empty, the matches should be FTA.
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
It is an imperfect situation and I feel for the fans who are too far away.
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Tim Goodwin1 Granada North West Today
Instead of thinking whether matches should be FTA post lockdown, maybe it is time to start considering legit streaming services to have more games and possibly to broadcast every game in the Premier league especially with the streaming services being more value for money than a sky subscription
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Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Instead of thinking whether matches should be FTA post lockdown, maybe it is time to start considering legit streaming services to have more games and possibly to broadcast every game in the Premier league especially with the streaming services being more value for money than a sky subscription


In an ideal world that would be the perfect solution but sadly this is not an ideal wold.

A "Premier League Network" would be a smash hit and would certainly be a kick in the teeth for Sky because their subscriber base would drop like a stone.
VA
valley
Instead of thinking whether matches should be FTA post lockdown, maybe it is time to start considering legit streaming services to have more games and possibly to broadcast every game in the Premier league especially with the streaming services being more value for money than a sky subscription


In an ideal world that would be the perfect solution but sadly this is not an ideal wold.

A "Premier League Network" would be a smash hit and would certainly be a kick in the teeth for Sky because their subscriber base would drop like a stone.

I doubt the EPL would seriously consider that at the moment, since we are only part way through the rights period rather than towards the end. Also, the revenue they would get from fans paying for a "Premier League Network" subscription would almost certainly be far less than the current broadcasting rights payments. By some very rough calculations and hypothetical numbers they would need almost 15 million subscribers (paying £8/month for 10 months) to match just the Sky annual rights payments (£1.2 billion).

The EPL would also likely have much higher overhead costs due to producing match coverage and developing a streaming platform which would be on a par with the existing Sky/BT 4K offerings, etc.

Far more likely for the 2020-21 season onwards is that they work with existing rights holders to develop a more widespread iFollow-esque platform, perhaps based around NOWTV...
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
There is this from Wikipedia:

English-speaking countries (excluding the UK) are able to carry what is known as the 'International feed' or 'World feed' audio; this is full match commentary provided by the Premier League. In Asia, and select other countries around the world, there is also a fully produced studio broadcast called Premier League Productions where pre, half time and post-match analysis is offered. This is currently[when?] hosted by Steve Bower and Manish Bhasin.
VA
valley
There is this from Wikipedia:

English-speaking countries (excluding the UK) are able to carry what is known as the 'International feed' or 'World feed' audio; this is full match commentary provided by the Premier League. In Asia, and select other countries around the world, there is also a fully produced studio broadcast called Premier League Productions where pre, half time and post-match analysis is offered. This is currently[when?] hosted by Steve Bower and Manish Bhasin.

Yeah, but other than the IMG games, they are just taking the world feed produced by Sky/BT/AZPV/BBC and adding studio wrap-around.
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NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Ah right, For some reason I thought there was a Premier League channel outside the UK
HA
harshy Founding member
Not necessarily taken as a channel, there is a PLTV though but distributed via fibre.
RD
rdd Founding member
It’s described here as the not especially snappy named “Premier League Content Service”.

https://www.premierleague.com/news/1223547

Also - looking less further afield - Sky Sports Premier League is essentially a 24/7 PL channel, even if Sky occasionally repurpose it (on UEFA international match nights).

But really, the Premier League in its domestic rights had, at least up to the last auction, done really well out of splitting its rights over at least two broadcasters, even if it was originally forced on them. Instead of a situation where Sky could throw a bid of the last deal+x%, knowing that it would take a knockout bid from a competitor for the whole lot to blow it out of the water, the PL has made it more manageable for a Setanta, BT or ESPN to enter the market without risking the house, and to keep Sky from being too complacent at the same time.

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