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Markymark8,186 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
Also notable from the footage, Bill McLaren's commentary appears to be like it was down a phone. Would I be right in saying that's why the sound on the commentary isn't as good as the sound from Nigel Starmer Smith's intro?

Yes, almost certainly.


The opening links would have been on an - in those days eye wateringly expensive - unilateral satellite link. It’s quite likely just to have been booked to cover the introduction to the programme. That might have been a joint link with other broadcasters, the BBC booking the time they needed.

it's still common with sporting events to be able to get a uni on the multi - ie a short slot on the world feed before (or after) the international offer. It's cheaper than booking your own separate satellite path, but you're a bit more limited in terms of timings!

UEFA events run them like clockwork - the host broadcaster is obliged to provide a pitchside standup position and a TBU clean-feed, and before the match you'll get a parade of international reporters doing interviews or 2-ways with their own studio.

One of the early It'll be Alright on the Nights featured LWT attempting to do an overseas uni after a motoring race. They strugged to get the interviewee, the non English speaking host director, and host cameraman to all get everything in place in time. Just at the point it all came together, the circuit dropped
robertclark1251,588 posts since 13 Jan 2009
STV Central Reporting Scotland
Did radio 2 cover any of the rugby world cup matches in 1987 from Australia and New Zealand? Because Nigel Starmer Smith could have been at the tournament for the pool matches.

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He was at the tournament for the pool matches. I've seen on youtube matches, including England v Australia, England v Japan, Wales v Ireland, and Nigel Starmer Smith commentated on them all. If anyone was there on BBC radio 2, most likely it would've been Ian Robertson and Alastair Hignell.
Big-G22 posts since 3 Dec 2019
Central (East) East Midlands Today
Did radio 2 cover any of the rugby world cup matches in 1987 from Australia and New Zealand? Because Nigel Starmer Smith could have been at the tournament for the pool matches.

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He was at the tournament for the pool matches. I've seen on youtube matches, including England v Australia, England v Japan, Wales v Ireland, and Nigel Starmer Smith commentated on them all. If anyone was there on BBC radio 2, most likely it would've been Ian Robertson and Alastair Hignell.


Were the pool matches shown live on the BBC, or was the highlights shown on a Rugby Special type of programme?

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UKnews945 posts since 26 Apr 2011
Yes, almost certainly.


The opening links would have been on an - in those days eye wateringly expensive - unilateral satellite link. It’s quite likely just to have been booked to cover the introduction to the programme. That might have been a joint link with other broadcasters, the BBC booking the time they needed.

it's still common with sporting events to be able to get a uni on the multi - ie a short slot on the world feed before (or after) the international offer. It's cheaper than booking your own separate satellite path, but you're a bit more limited in terms of timings!

UEFA events run them like clockwork - the host broadcaster is obliged to provide a pitchside standup position and a TBU clean-feed, and before the match you'll get a parade of international reporters doing interviews or 2-ways with their own studio.

One of the early It'll be Alright on the Nights featured LWT attempting to do an overseas uni after a motoring race. They strugged to get the interviewee, the non English speaking host director, and host cameraman to all get everything in place in time. Just at the point it all came together, the circuit dropped

Yes, I remember that - it’s a brilliant clip. Unfortunately I did read - I can’t remember where - that It’ll Be Alright on the Night changed the ending, and that in reality LWT did get the extension to the satellite time and the interview was completed.
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Steve Williams3,146 posts since 1 Aug 2008
He was at the tournament for the pool matches. I've seen on youtube matches, including England v Australia, England v Japan, Wales v Ireland, and Nigel Starmer Smith commentated on them all. If anyone was there on BBC radio 2, most likely it would've been Ian Robertson and Alastair Hignell.


Here are Radio 2 broadcasting Ireland, Scotland and England matches in the group stage - a bit of duplication as they spanned two issues.
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/radio2/1987-05-29#at-2.00

As you can see, Ian Robertson did the England matches and it looks like the regular commentators from Radios Scotland, Wales and Ulster commentated on their games. They wouldn't have covered anything but the home nations in the group stage. I like how despite matches kicking off at 2am, 4am and 6am, they didn't offer continuous coverage and opted back into the main Radio 2 output for half an hour between them.

Were the pool matches shown live on the BBC, or was the highlights shown on a Rugby Special type of programme?


As I mentioned on the previous page, only three matches were shown live on the BBC, one quarter final, one semi-final and the final, all the others were either at 2am which was presumably considered a waste of time to broadcast or clashed with immovable Breakfast Time or Open University programmes.

As I say, the England games, which were pretty much all on a weekend, had full reruns on Grandstand and there were highlights shows most evenings with Steve Rider in London. On Saturdays, these were part of Sport Special - https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1987-05-30#at-22.45 - which ran most Saturdays that summer.

As you can see, the Beeb's commentators for that tournament were Bill McLaren, Nigel Starmer-Smith and Fred Cogley who was usually on RTE. I think he might have been the primitive "world feed".
robertclark1251,588 posts since 13 Jan 2009
STV Central Reporting Scotland
Martin Williams, of BBC Wales, was also out there, as he done the commentary on all but one of Wales's matches for BBC Wales, though his commentary on the Wales v Canada and Wales v Tonga pool matches was taken by the network. Interestingly, he didn't do commentary for BBC wales on the Wales v Ireland match in the 1987 world cup; they took Nigel Starmer Smith's commentary instead.

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Xilla235 posts since 29 Nov 2003
t's still common with sporting events to be able to get a uni on the multi - ie a short slot on the world feed before (or after) the international offer. It's cheaper than booking your own separate satellite path, but you're a bit more limited in terms of timings!

UEFA events run them like clockwork - the host broadcaster is obliged to provide a pitchside standup position and a TBU clean-feed, and before the match you'll get a parade of international reporters doing interviews or 2-ways with their own studio.

One of the early It'll be Alright on the Nights featured LWT attempting to do an overseas uni after a motoring race. They strugged to get the interviewee, the non English speaking host director, and host cameraman to all get everything in place in time. Just at the point it all came together, the circuit dropped

Yes, I remember that - it’s a brilliant clip. Unfortunately I did read - I can’t remember where - that It’ll Be Alright on the Night changed the ending, and that in reality LWT did get the extension to the satellite time and the interview was completed.


I do remember the same bit of footage showing up on another blooper show (probably one of the Steve Penk ones) and it didn't cut out at the end like it did on Alright.
Amber Avenger169 posts since 15 Jun 2017
Granada North West Today
Australian Rugby League returns is to return on 28th May, with all matches from the first round back live on Sky.





I wonder if all matches being on might just be for the first week - Sky usually have 2 or 3 live matches a week, the rest being exclusive to the NRL's own streaming service.
FanOfTV99475 posts since 6 Nov 2017
Granada North West Today
It seems that the FA Cup final is still on





I've seen that guy around, he's amazing.

What he does is make Grandstand, Sportnight and Match Of The Day by using Video Game Simulation. It's really good
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