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Rkolsen3,034 posts since 20 Jan 2014
BBC World News
They're only about 20 years behind the UK trying that sort of thing. Sky discovered very quickly viewers like the director to choose the best camera angle.


I’m not sure how often that happens for the US. But I seem to recall certain NBC sports events having the multiple camera angles.
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harshy6,343 posts since 24 Mar 2001
They're only about 20 years behind the UK trying that sort of thing. Sky discovered very quickly viewers like the director to choose the best camera angle.

It didn’t work because the sky boxes were so laggy it would take a second or two to switch to the angle which is obviously dosent happen when a director switches angle.
Rkolsen3,034 posts since 20 Jan 2014
BBC World News
They're only about 20 years behind the UK trying that sort of thing. Sky discovered very quickly viewers like the director to choose the best camera angle.


I’m not sure how often that happens for the US. But I seem to recall certain NBC sports events having the multiple camera angles.

Just looked back at some posts NBC Sports definitely has had different camera angles for the Olympics, NASCAR, and the Premier League.



Yeah, the first thought that came to mind was 'early days of red button'. Suprised that they had two 4K channels and neither were used for full match coverage.


Yeah that’s what baffled me. Why broadcast a 4K feed of a game when most of the picture is filled with graphics? I imagine most viewers would have preferred a 4K traditional game feed and the 4K skycam feed.

The only thing I can maybe think of is that early in the season when they were trying 4K they said every input/output in their router and switcher was populated and I think they’re still using quadlink HD-SDI. If they’re using quadlink that means the switcher would loose a quarter of its inputs. So having the normal feed in HD where you have the benefit of every camera angle makes sense as most viewers would watch the traditional feed.

Edit: Is there any professional switcher on the market be it SDI based (assuming 12G) or IP based where switching UHD video does not reduce the the number of workable inputs as there would be with 3G? I know Blackmagic has some but they aren’t really suited for professional full time uses.
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thegeek5,211 posts since 1 Jan 2002
London London

Edit: Is there any professional switcher on the market be it SDI based (assuming 12G) or IP based where switching UHD video does not reduce the the number of workable inputs as there would be with 3G? I know Blackmagic has some but they aren’t really suited for professional full time uses.
Yes - with IP you can just kind of keep going. This truck comes with 32 UHD cameras, and the Kahuna mixer can take up to 120 inputs.

(I think most UHD OBs probably get away with a few upscaled cameras - minicams in goals, drone shots, etc)
UKnews877 posts since 26 Apr 2011
I just want the beauty of HDR it looked fantastic on my friends telly Sky should be replicating the bbc especially with the sky high subscriptions, Sky have no excuses they done it for the Italianos, Sky should believe in better Wink

I’d rather wait than have the ‘fake’ HDR that Sky is - reportedly - offering (at least for some things) in Italy.
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Rkolsen3,034 posts since 20 Jan 2014
BBC World News
I just want the beauty of HDR it looked fantastic on my friends telly Sky should be replicating the bbc especially with the sky high subscriptions, Sky have no excuses they done it for the Italianos, Sky should believe in better Wink

I’d rather wait than have the ‘fake’ HDR that Sky is - reportedly - offering (at least for some things) in Italy.


What is this fake HDR?
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Markymark7,484 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today

Edit: Is there any professional switcher on the market be it SDI based (assuming 12G) or IP based where switching UHD video does not reduce the the number of workable inputs as there would be with 3G? I know Blackmagic has some but they aren’t really suited for professional full time uses.
Yes - with IP you can just kind of keep going. This truck comes with 32 UHD cameras, and the Kahuna mixer can take up to 120 inputs.

(I think most UHD OBs probably get away with a few upscaled cameras - minicams in goals, drone shots, etc)


It's all down to how much processing 'grunt' the mixer has, but all else being equal using uncompressed digital video, 4k working reduces the inputs available by a factor of four (over 1080p50 working) .
TIGHazard614 posts since 3 Jan 2014
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Intrigued....

Seems that there's now some UFC content on BBCiPlayer including two complete archive contests.


Seems to reference this upcoming event and also includes a press conference promoting it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_246

BT have the rights but could the BBC be airing highlights or a full replay in the future?

Wasn't there a boxing match they did this to a few years ago where it was embargoed in the listing magazines?
rdd3,454 posts since 21 Jun 2001
Virgin Media TV sublicened some UFC content in the past so not beyond the realms of possibility, but seems an odd one for the BBC to target.

Completely unrelated...

LaLiga TV joined the Sky EPG (finally) on Monday (#435) and is free to all Sky customers this week and next week. After January 29th it becomes part of the Premier Sports pack in the U.K. and also available standalone at £5.99. In Ireland it’s not part of Premier Sports wholesale deal with Sky and instead is only available standalone at €5.99. ROI viewers will be able to watch kickoffs in the blocked 3pm window which, while not quite a first (we have had a live 3pm Premier League game since 2004, League of Wales games on S4C in the past and the very rare League of Ireland game on RTE) is certainly unusual.
harshy6,343 posts since 24 Mar 2001
I just want the beauty of HDR it looked fantastic on my friends telly Sky should be replicating the bbc especially with the sky high subscriptions, Sky have no excuses they done it for the Italianos, Sky should believe in better Wink

I’d rather wait than have the ‘fake’ HDR that Sky is - reportedly - offering (at least for some things) in Italy.


What is this fake HDR?

Apparently simulates an effect used on some HDR tellys don’t know if there’s been any complaints, either way the Italianos must be loving it and getting full value for their euros.
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