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I think this may be the answer to the question of what the BBC will be doing with that spare capacity left over from switching their HD channels to DVB-S2.
Oh, perhaps not. Someone on the news has just said that BBC HD will be showing the 3D coverage.
thegeek
Founding member
Interesting. How will this actually work then? Will BBC One HD carry 2D HD coverage while BBC HD carries the 3D?
Oh, perhaps not. Someone on the news has just said that BBC HD will be showing the 3D coverage.
DV
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#Wimbledon Finals available in HD as usual on BBCOneHD
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MA
I think this may be the answer to the question of what the BBC will be doing with that spare capacity left over from switching their HD channels to DVB-S2.
I think the resolution of BBC HD will need to increase to 1920 x 1080, in order to accommodate the left and right eye channels side by side each at 960 x 1080 ? So that's why more bandwidth is required (which S2 provides).
Interesting. How will this actually work then? Will BBC One HD carry 2D HD coverage while BBC HD carries the 3D?
I think the resolution of BBC HD will need to increase to 1920 x 1080, in order to accommodate the left and right eye channels side by side each at 960 x 1080 ? So that's why more bandwidth is required (which S2 provides).
MI
Eugh. That's the reaction I have to you Brekkie when you post guff like this.
In 1927, 271 people had a television period, yet TV signals were broadcast.
In 1967, 271 people had a colour 625-line TV, yet colour 625-line signals were broadcast.
In 1998, 271 people had 16:9 TVs with DTT receiving equipment, yet digital signals were broadcast.
In 2007, 271 people had HD capable TVs and SkyHD boxes, yet HD signals were broadcast.
In 2011, 271 people have 3D-capable TVs, and 3D-capable receivers, yet 3D signals were broadcast.
What may seem a pointless waste of time given the numbers now will turn out to be the norm. You cannot halt progress.
Besides, these nascent 3D broadcasts have a double-edged necessity. 1 - to entertain the people with 3D-capable reception equipment. 2 - to dry-run the new technology so that when 2.71 million are tuned in 5 years time they don't cock it up and actually know what they're doing.
Also, they're doing it because THEY CAN. Like Everest, which was climbed because it WAS THERE.
I'm sure the 271 people with a 3D TV will be very happy.
Eugh. That's the reaction I have to you Brekkie when you post guff like this.
In 1927, 271 people had a television period, yet TV signals were broadcast.
In 1967, 271 people had a colour 625-line TV, yet colour 625-line signals were broadcast.
In 1998, 271 people had 16:9 TVs with DTT receiving equipment, yet digital signals were broadcast.
In 2007, 271 people had HD capable TVs and SkyHD boxes, yet HD signals were broadcast.
In 2011, 271 people have 3D-capable TVs, and 3D-capable receivers, yet 3D signals were broadcast.
What may seem a pointless waste of time given the numbers now will turn out to be the norm. You cannot halt progress.
Besides, these nascent 3D broadcasts have a double-edged necessity. 1 - to entertain the people with 3D-capable reception equipment. 2 - to dry-run the new technology so that when 2.71 million are tuned in 5 years time they don't cock it up and actually know what they're doing.
Also, they're doing it because THEY CAN. Like Everest, which was climbed because it WAS THERE.
BR
Are the graphics in this blog a hint at the tweaks to the BBC package for this year (in the Wimbledon colours), or are they from last year?
I hope this isn't the thin end of the wedge and the BBC won't opt to do something stupid like restrict the Olympics to BBC1 HD next year so 3D coverage can air on BBC HD.
Also talking of the Olympics with no signs of the BBC even considering finding the space for that much needed extra interactive stream along with using BBC Parliament I wonder if they might consider a similar solution to that for BBC Alba and remove the radio stations for the period to enable them to at least match what we had in Beijing for the games.
I hope this isn't the thin end of the wedge and the BBC won't opt to do something stupid like restrict the Olympics to BBC1 HD next year so 3D coverage can air on BBC HD.
Also talking of the Olympics with no signs of the BBC even considering finding the space for that much needed extra interactive stream along with using BBC Parliament I wonder if they might consider a similar solution to that for BBC Alba and remove the radio stations for the period to enable them to at least match what we had in Beijing for the games.
CH
200,000 homes have already bought a 3D TV, according to Rory Cellan-Jones yesterday.
I'm sure the 271 people with a 3D TV will be very happy.
200,000 homes have already bought a 3D TV, according to Rory Cellan-Jones yesterday.
NG
I think this may be the answer to the question of what the BBC will be doing with that spare capacity left over from switching their HD channels to DVB-S2.
I think the resolution of BBC HD will need to increase to 1920 x 1080, in order to accommodate the left and right eye channels side by side each at 960 x 1080 ? So that's why more bandwidth is required (which S2 provides).
Yep - apparently BBC HD will temporarily switch from 1440x1080 (which would only delier 720x1080 eye feeds) to 1920x1080 (to deliver 960x1080 eye feeds) for the period of the 3D broadcasts. Not sure if this will just be on Freesat/Sky HD - or whether they'll also try to bump up the resolution on Freeview HD as well (though this has no extra bandwith to play with)
The 2D coverage will broadcast on BBC One HD, and will be produced by the conventional set-up. (The 2D stuff is not just one of the two 3D eye-feeds, it's separate)
The separate 3D coverage (which I believe is being provided via a Visions OB truck - and heavily funded by Sony) will have a BBC (I believe) production team, and although it may well be producing 3D coverage from Centre court for many matches (and ESPN 3D have announced they will show the semi-finals as well as finals in 3D) BBC HD will broadcast the men's and ladies' finals in 3D, whilst the separate 2D coverage airs on BBC One HD.
I assume that for the rest of the tournament, BBC HD will simulcast in HD BBC Two's SD tennis coverage during the day's play?
noggin
Founding member
Interesting. How will this actually work then? Will BBC One HD carry 2D HD coverage while BBC HD carries the 3D?
I think the resolution of BBC HD will need to increase to 1920 x 1080, in order to accommodate the left and right eye channels side by side each at 960 x 1080 ? So that's why more bandwidth is required (which S2 provides).
Yep - apparently BBC HD will temporarily switch from 1440x1080 (which would only delier 720x1080 eye feeds) to 1920x1080 (to deliver 960x1080 eye feeds) for the period of the 3D broadcasts. Not sure if this will just be on Freesat/Sky HD - or whether they'll also try to bump up the resolution on Freeview HD as well (though this has no extra bandwith to play with)
The 2D coverage will broadcast on BBC One HD, and will be produced by the conventional set-up. (The 2D stuff is not just one of the two 3D eye-feeds, it's separate)
The separate 3D coverage (which I believe is being provided via a Visions OB truck - and heavily funded by Sony) will have a BBC (I believe) production team, and although it may well be producing 3D coverage from Centre court for many matches (and ESPN 3D have announced they will show the semi-finals as well as finals in 3D) BBC HD will broadcast the men's and ladies' finals in 3D, whilst the separate 2D coverage airs on BBC One HD.
I assume that for the rest of the tournament, BBC HD will simulcast in HD BBC Two's SD tennis coverage during the day's play?
AC
Obviously it would never happen now with budgets, but times like this when lots of sport programmes/tournaments are on, it would make sense for a BBC Sport channel.
It's great to see BBC take their first step in 3D, even if a little later than Sky. Hopefully if it goes well, they will make some special programming in 3D. Is any of the Olympic Games going to be done in 3D? Very jealous for those who have a 3D television - I guess I'll just have to wait a few years then.
It's great to see BBC take their first step in 3D, even if a little later than Sky. Hopefully if it goes well, they will make some special programming in 3D. Is any of the Olympic Games going to be done in 3D? Very jealous for those who have a 3D television - I guess I'll just have to wait a few years then.
NG
noggin
Founding member
More details of Wimbledon 3D stuff here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2011/06/gearing_up_to_deliver_wimbledo.html