Just a slightly separate point- it appears that Five Live have changed their music (at the half hour and top of the hour) for Euro 2004.....it's actually a really chilled out acoustic kind of tune.which is a bit surprising. Also the woman now says "The Official Euro 2004 station- Five Live", rather than "Live News - Live Sport - Five Live"
That would be the brand new package for Five Live which, if you're a member of a certain other forum, is officially not very popular. I haven't heard it used on air yet so I think they've literally only just introduced it. People have said it's a grower - I've listened to it a few times and I have to say I've warmed to the theme, but it's still a bit of a weird choice for Five Live! The voiceover is also a bit weak.
Anyone know anything about the programmes opening titles & music yet?
Remember in the World Cup 2002, BBC went with a fairly upbeat (and bizzare) number, and ITV had a classical theme.
This was a complete turn around to what is usually expected
BBC have a remix of the Basement Jaxx tune "good luck", which I believe includes choral tones- it's an incredibly catchy and upbeat number.
Is this the actual BBC theme for this year then? Good choice. I know Radio 1 have been using it ad nauseum for everything Euro 2004 related but I didn't know if this was the BBC thing.
Anyone know anything about the programmes opening titles & music yet?
Remember in the World Cup 2002, BBC went with a fairly upbeat (and bizzare) number, and ITV had a classical theme.
This was a complete turn around to what is usually expected
BBC have a remix of the Basement Jaxx tune "good luck", which I believe includes choral tones- it's an incredibly catchy and upbeat number.
Is this the actual BBC theme for this year then? Good choice. I know Radio 1 have been using it ad nauseum for everything Euro 2004 related but I didn't know if this was the BBC thing.
This is indeed the tune for the BBC Television titles for all Euro 2004 coverage.
Just a slightly separate point- it appears that Five Live have changed their music (at the half hour and top of the hour) for Euro 2004.....it's actually a really chilled out acoustic kind of tune.which is a bit surprising. Also the woman now says "The Official Euro 2004 station- Five Live", rather than "Live News - Live Sport - Five Live"
That would be the brand new package for Five Live which, if you're a member of a certain other forum, is officially not very popular. I haven't heard it used on air yet so I think they've literally only just introduced it. People have said it's a grower - I've listened to it a few times and I have to say I've warmed to the theme, but it's still a bit of a weird choice for Five Live! The voiceover is also a bit weak.
Does this mean that it'll stay beyond the tournament? It strikes me as a little weak and lacking the authoritative drum beat backing of the previous two packages.....in my opinion those beats are very much appropriate for a rolling news station, whereas this newer softer tune is perhaps good for Euro 2004 coverage only.
Just a slightly separate point- it appears that Five Live have changed their music (at the half hour and top of the hour) for Euro 2004.....it's actually a really chilled out acoustic kind of tune.which is a bit surprising. Also the woman now says "The Official Euro 2004 station- Five Live", rather than "Live News - Live Sport - Five Live"
That would be the brand new package for Five Live which, if you're a member of a certain other forum, is officially not very popular. I haven't heard it used on air yet so I think they've literally only just introduced it. People have said it's a grower - I've listened to it a few times and I have to say I've warmed to the theme, but it's still a bit of a weird choice for Five Live! The voiceover is also a bit weak.
Does this mean that it'll stay beyond the tournament? It strikes me as a little weak and lacking the authoritative drum beat backing of the previous two packages.....in my opinion those beats are very much appropriate for a rolling news station, whereas this newer softer tune is perhaps good for Euro 2004 coverage only.
Yep, it's their new package - I presume they thought Euro 2004 was a good opportunity to introduce it. I really liked the package used up until yesterday, and I think this new one is a bit of an interesting choice. But the more you hear it the more it does grow on you and I quite like it now. The standard voiceover is very weak though and a bit of a let down (first time for a while they refer to the station as "BBC Radio Five Live" rather than "Five Live").
If the opening titles to be used by BBC and ITV are basically those that were used for today's Football Focus on BBC One and Euro 2004 preview on ITV1, then they are a huge disappointment.
The titles themselves are quite well done, but not imaginative and, actually, quite similar to each other.
As for the music .... for both, bland and quite forgettable. These tunes will not be going through my head at the end of the tournament, never mind in years to come.
A real let-down.
Not too sure if viewers in Wales should be subjected to bulldogs and St Georges flags either. It is a seaparate country, with a football team of its own, for godness sake!
As for Radio Five Live (and they do seem to be very much into saying "BBC Radio Five Live" again), if this is the new package (I have my doubts, as they are still using the same travel music for example), what another dismal failure. Each package has been poorer than the one before - it's been downhill from the magnificent launch one in 1994, a quality never replicated.
If the opening titles to be used by BBC and ITV are basically those that were used for today's Football Focus on BBC One and Euro 2004 preview on ITV1, then they are a huge disappointment.
The titles themselves are quite well done, but not imaginative and, actually, quite similar to each other.
As for the music .... for both, bland and quite forgettable. These tunes will not be going through my head at the end of the tournament, never mind in years to come.
A real let-down.
Not too sure if viewers in Wales should be subjected to bulldogs and St Georges flags either. It is a seaparate country, with a football team of its own, for godness sake!
AGREED - the opening titles to both were OKAY but nothing special. ITV's seemed a bit rushed and some players appeared as 4:3 rather than 16:9! "Theme tunes?" I cant even remember listening to them as they were VERY bland but then maybe that is a good thing because if we like them on the first outing we will probably get very fed up with them in 4 four weeks times etc.... so ill decide in a few weeks whether I actually like either of the theme tunes!
They're not supposed to! It was agreed some time ago that all English regional programmes would be shown on BBC ONE. This is for two main reasons: the DTT transmitters in English regions are only configured to opt out on Net1 only and English DSAT regionality is limited to BBC1 too.
What do you mean they're not supposed to? They decided they would move all BBC2 English regional variations to BBC1, effectively signalling the end of BBC2 English regions, because as you say the English regions are not supported on any digital platform and the vast cost of adding support could not be justified considering the small amount of use the BBC2 English regions got.
But, it's hardly like they've entered into some sort of agreement not to use them any more? The facilitiy to provide an English regional service on BBC2 analogue is still there and I don't say it going out. Of course they should still make use of it if the case is there. To suggest that they shouldn't because 'digital viewers can't see it' (i'm not suggesting you personally said that, but it's often trotted out at the suggestion) is stupid, because everyone can still receive BBC2 through analogue terrestrial and so could still access regional programmes moved to BBC2 if they needed to (with the exception of people receiving a sub opt, but even then the only real casualty is Channel Islands viewers).
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This means that not only would viewers in the Channel Islands not get their sub-opt, they wouldn't even get the Plymouth main programme - instead they'd get BBC London News... On ANALOGUE...
Well the main Plymouth edition of Spotlight rarely if ever acknowledges the Channel Islands, and pretty much nothing going on in South West England is of any interest to Channel Islanders, so it doesn't really make a difference if they get BBC London News instead of BBC Spotlight with no opt; either way they are getting news which doesn't report their region and what is reported in the programme is of no relevence to them.
But, if Spotlight Channel Islands still comes from the same site as the transmitter, can they not hard switch the transmitter output from the Dsat feed to the studio and thus manually run the opt on BBC2? I know there would probably then be a bit of picture roll between the two because the sources wouldn't be synced but surely an opt with a messy cut is better than no opt at all? Or is there a reason why this can't happen?
What happens when analogue is switched off completely?
Using BBC2 will no longer be a option anyway.
Off the top of my head, is there many non news local programmes from BBC English Regions these days?
Why can't we have, in the future, when everything analogue into digital is sorted out, & everybody can get News 24, change the 16 or so English versions of BBC 1 in 16 News 24's, then they could do regional 24/7, as & when. The only drawback would be major news coverage of stuff like Reagan's funeral, but at least BBC 1 & 2 could concentrate on network stuff, without b***dy timeshifting for half an hour, for local sports awards.
Leave the nations as they are though. Don't want the Scots moaning that they can't see the likes of 'River City', or whatever it's called, because they can't opt. By rights, the nations ought to be able to run their own schedules anyway. Show 'Neighbours' at 1830 if they want IMO !
If the opening titles to be used by BBC and ITV are basically those that were used for today's Football Focus on BBC One and Euro 2004 preview on ITV1, then they are a huge disappointment.
The titles themselves are quite well done, but not imaginative and, actually, quite similar to each other.
As for the music .... for both, bland and quite forgettable. These tunes will not be going through my head at the end of the tournament, never mind in years to come.
A real let-down.
Not too sure if viewers in Wales should be subjected to bulldogs and St Georges flags either. It is a seaparate country, with a football team of its own, for godness sake!
I haven't seen the BBC titles I confess, but I know the theme very well - something that's been used everyday on Radio 1. And I really can't see how those three notes are unmemorable. You're going to be hearing that same patten of notes over and over again for the touranament. Coupled with the fact it's already been in the Top 40 and will be re-released on June 28? I take it you don't already know the song - but you will get to know it.
ITV didn't even have a tune - it sounded like a backing track.
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As for Radio Five Live (and they do seem to be very much into saying "BBC Radio Five Live" again), if this is the new package (I have my doubts, as they are still using the same travel music for example), what another dismal failure. Each package has been poorer than the one before - it's been downhill from the magnificent launch one in 1994, a quality never replicated.
All my own humble opinions of course.
I can assure you it is the new package, and I think it's a bit strong saying it's a dismal failure on the first day of its use. Allow it time and I'm sure it will settle.
