AJ
I thought yesterday's Swap Shop was another great show, probably the best one so far! I'm really enjoying watching this and hearing the old MOM crew in the background too, and I like it how most of the games change each week to a different theme, such as the Alien theme on the conveyor belt game. Looking forward to next weeks!
TV
Editorial in BBC Aerial magazine:
Ariel Eye - Where Grange Hill goes next
a comment on current issues
by Clare Dyson
Play the Grange Hill theme tune, with its banger spearing cartoon strip to a 30-something and the smell of school chips and teen spirit will come wafting into their memories. No matter that the school was a fictional place - it felt real enough (if perhaps slightly more exciting than our own schools at times).
So when creator Phil Redmond said recently that it was time for the show to 'hang up its mortar board' because the BBC wanted to pitch the series to a younger age group I shared his disappointment at the fate of this rite of passage.
The series to be broadcast later in the year has been adjusted to be more 'appropriate and meaningful' to the CBBC target age of 612. There won't be a sixth form or year 11 and the main protagonists will be younger, around 11 to 13. To recap, the school used to take kids - well those that made it - up to the sixth form, as they picked their way through storylines such as suicide, sex, pregnancy and drug addiction.
The new series has a different set of dilemmas such as dyslexia, jealousy, families splitting up. Clearly it won't be a modern day Ballet Shoes, but the softening is bound to change the character of the show millions of teenagers have grown up with.
'It'll be a different beast. My preference would be for it to have a new name because it's a new show and a new format,' says Redmond. In response, a BBC spokesperson says 'the first Grange Hill was about kids starting comprehensive school ... the age has crept up over the years - we're correcting it'.
Maybe. The great thing about Grange Hill was that it built a credible reputation by not ignoring the gritty side of life and was about being a teenager all the way through sympathising with your prospective age clan in the group just as you would in real life school, seeing what pitfalls lay ahead.
Redmond's objections to the change came in the week that Michael Lyons announced a review into the BBC's provision for children and young people - mindful, he said, that most criticism was directed at what the BBC offers young adults.
Interesting too that young teens in the new Grange Hill target range have responded eagerly to a review for the government by House of Tiny Tearaways presenter Tanya Byron into harmful effects on children of the internet and video games. Byron has struck a chord with young people who place cyber bullying way ahead of online predators in the list of online concerns.
She says young people make no distinction between online and offline bullying; few would dream of asking parents for advice on internet use but they commonly trick their elders over suitability of video age ratings.
All insights that government and regulators may have to take on board. Perhaps the Grange Hill writers might too.
Ariel Eye - Where Grange Hill goes next
a comment on current issues
by Clare Dyson
Play the Grange Hill theme tune, with its banger spearing cartoon strip to a 30-something and the smell of school chips and teen spirit will come wafting into their memories. No matter that the school was a fictional place - it felt real enough (if perhaps slightly more exciting than our own schools at times).
So when creator Phil Redmond said recently that it was time for the show to 'hang up its mortar board' because the BBC wanted to pitch the series to a younger age group I shared his disappointment at the fate of this rite of passage.
The series to be broadcast later in the year has been adjusted to be more 'appropriate and meaningful' to the CBBC target age of 612. There won't be a sixth form or year 11 and the main protagonists will be younger, around 11 to 13. To recap, the school used to take kids - well those that made it - up to the sixth form, as they picked their way through storylines such as suicide, sex, pregnancy and drug addiction.
The new series has a different set of dilemmas such as dyslexia, jealousy, families splitting up. Clearly it won't be a modern day Ballet Shoes, but the softening is bound to change the character of the show millions of teenagers have grown up with.
'It'll be a different beast. My preference would be for it to have a new name because it's a new show and a new format,' says Redmond. In response, a BBC spokesperson says 'the first Grange Hill was about kids starting comprehensive school ... the age has crept up over the years - we're correcting it'.
Maybe. The great thing about Grange Hill was that it built a credible reputation by not ignoring the gritty side of life and was about being a teenager all the way through sympathising with your prospective age clan in the group just as you would in real life school, seeing what pitfalls lay ahead.
Redmond's objections to the change came in the week that Michael Lyons announced a review into the BBC's provision for children and young people - mindful, he said, that most criticism was directed at what the BBC offers young adults.
Interesting too that young teens in the new Grange Hill target range have responded eagerly to a review for the government by House of Tiny Tearaways presenter Tanya Byron into harmful effects on children of the internet and video games. Byron has struck a chord with young people who place cyber bullying way ahead of online predators in the list of online concerns.
She says young people make no distinction between online and offline bullying; few would dream of asking parents for advice on internet use but they commonly trick their elders over suitability of video age ratings.
All insights that government and regulators may have to take on board. Perhaps the Grange Hill writers might too.
JF
Yes, one now includes MI High.... and i think some have re-jiggled
Tom9 posted:
Is it me or have cbbc change the idents around?
Yes, one now includes MI High.... and i think some have re-jiggled
NL
What do you mean? On the iPlayer, I suppose.
Speaking of iPlayer...click on Categories, then Children then the CbbcBBC logo. Click on any of them and you can see the empty CBBC menu before the logo materializes when we see Shawn the Sheep. It only appears for one millisecond- it just flickers but you can see it. It really irritates me.
Tom9 posted:
Yes but the 1 that mihign now has shawn the sheep.
wach today and see 26/1/08.
wach today and see 26/1/08.
What do you mean? On the iPlayer, I suppose.
Speaking of iPlayer...click on Categories, then Children then the CbbcBBC logo. Click on any of them and you can see the empty CBBC menu before the logo materializes when we see Shawn the Sheep. It only appears for one millisecond- it just flickers but you can see it. It really irritates me.
JF
Oooh, sounds interesting, any caps anyone
Tom9 posted:
CBBC Channel lost sound throught uncle max.
We heard Ed talking and he said that he was muged at the weekend.
We also heard him rehearch and you can tell that he does CBBC Channel live.
We heard Ed talking and he said that he was muged at the weekend.
We also heard him rehearch and you can tell that he does CBBC Channel live.
Oooh, sounds interesting, any caps anyone
TV
Something similar happened when newsround was on once and then Ed came on standing at the file cabinet rehearsing his speach but you coudn't here him, just Ellie (NR presenter).
Tom9 posted:
CBBC Channel lost sound throught uncle max.
We heard Ed talking and he said that he was muged (or some thing like that) at the weekend.
We also heard him rehearch and you can tell that he does CBBC Channel live.
We heard Ed talking and he said that he was muged (or some thing like that) at the weekend.
We also heard him rehearch and you can tell that he does CBBC Channel live.
Something similar happened when newsround was on once and then Ed came on standing at the file cabinet rehearsing his speach but you coudn't here him, just Ellie (NR presenter).