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fanoftv
russnet posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
Your "times have changed" argument is becoming increasingly tiresome even if true russ. Sometimes better to admit defeat, eh?


Depends on who is admitting defeat here?

OK lets use your it was so much better in the days of Swap Shop approach....

Over the years when it morphed into Saturday Superstore, Going Live etc. It was roughly the same show but tweaked in certain areas. The days of Live and Kicking was still showing particular strength in the format notably as there was lack of competition by ITV but as the 90s went on, there was strains showing in the format and that by the end 90s, the kids watching it were going elsewhere, namely over to SMTV were you could see that was more fun to be had.

Consequently whilst the mirth of SMTV was being played out, I remember one morning that Live and Kicking were showing a child playing in a brass band. Now for entertainment value to the masses, you can see why people were opting to SMTV at the time and as time went back, the ratings dropped enough for the format to be dropped completely as surprisingly times had changed. The format of the 1970s was no longer viable in the late 90s, early 00s.


I agree with that (I'm sick of saying I agree, but I do).
Times have really changed, and they keep changing, so much so that as soon as you leave school, you haven't got a clue of what the kids are on about.
I'm not a big fan of hedz myself, but if kids like it, then that's what it's there to do. At the end of the day, the BBC is now the only major commissioner of British children's programmes. Let's not try and end it.

Compared to the 70's-90's format, the celebs that appear have changed, but I don't think children would want Gordon Brown on Saturday Morning TV. SM:tv showed that it was more about the presenting talent and the writing of the show than any of the guests, even though they talked to the guests, they were mainly there as they loved the show themselves, and wanted to appear in the sketches.

I believe that the problem TMi have is that they don't have the budget to afford big names to come onto the programme, thats why they only have a guest/group of guests on any one show, where as the old days had a plethora of guests from varying degrees of showbiz.

I for one would just like to see TMi given a chance with a decent budget.

(And TMi stands for Too Much Information, originally an abbreviation in text messages.)
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russnet Founding member
tvarksouthwest posted:
Your "times have changed" argument is becoming increasingly tiresome and surely you must have realised by now you're getting nowhere with it.

And since you remain full of assumptions, have you considered that I may not have, and didn't, deliberately make a point of sitting through an entire episode of TMi but may have instead made my judgements on the short segments I caught while changing channels? After what I DID see I would recommend root canal therapy as a suitable substitute.

There is a difference in the type of celebrity as featured in programmes like Hedz and those which would appear on Swap Shop. Yes, both would feature the pop stars of the day but that's where it stops with modern programmes - indeed TMi's first faux pas was on the very first show where a Big Brother reject was deemed to pass as a "celebrity guest". On Swap Shop you would get actors the calibre of Penelope Keith, the controller of BBC1, and even (in later incarnations) the Prime Minister! The idols balanced with genuinely "interesting" people.


Yes, I'm so far getting nowhere with it that somebody else on this very page agrees with me.

Tell me then before I stop, who would you like to see on TMi as a equivalent to Penelope Keith that the kids of today would love to see get involved in the show?

Beyond this,I think at the end of the day, we are going to agree to disagree and vice versa so theres little point in continuing beyond this.

In my eyes, Television is not as quaint and cosy as it was in the 1970s. A complete generation has materialised since then.
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tvarksouthwest
russnet posted:
Tell me then before I stop, who would you like to see on TMi as a equivalent to Penelope Keith that the kids of today would love to see get involved in the show?

While I can't name anyone like-for-like off the top of my head, you can otherwise take your pick really - Matt Lucas, David Walliams, David Tennant - no shortage really of big names who'd appeal to children. Stuff like Doctor Who is as popular as ever so why not bring on the SFX guys to show the youngsters how it's done And why not Fearne, and possibly Terry to promote Children In Need?

People like Nikki Grahame - what exactly had they done to warrant the status of celebrity "guest" other than to have featured on a downmarket reality show and got evicted?
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Joe
I'll agree with Simon that Brian from BB was a generally crap guest, because he was so dull and wooden. If you are going to book a guest for an entertainment show, at least make them entertaining.
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tvarksouthwest
I didn't know he'd been on there too...oh dear...
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Joe
First show of the series I think.

16 days later

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tvme
A new Saturday Morning Show for CBBC will air in the new year - and one of the presenters will be Barney Harwood who has won Best Presenter at Kids Baftas

see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/11_november/26/bafta.shtml or
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article510086.ece
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amosc100
From the same people that brought us Motormouth, then, with the address being The Maidstone Studios!!!!

Didn't Ministry of Mayhem come from here as well!!!!
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JasonB
Yep, MOM came from Maidstone.

TMi gets a Christmas special:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/11_november/27/christmas.shtml
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dbl
tvme posted:
A new Saturday Morning Show for CBBC will air in the new year - and one of the presenters will be Barney Harwood who has won Best Presenter at Kids Baftas

see http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article510086.ece

Ed and Oucho have mentioned that as well, At last a Saturday TV show!
http://watelevision.com/members/andyb/cbbc.avi.FLV
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fanoftv
Is there really any reason to get excited yet?
Let's just wait until the new year, or until more details are released.

If it turns out to be a proper live saturday morning show, i just feel sorry for TMi, which I feel should be the main Saturday morning show, it's just a shame that they couldn't use Leicester Sq, they haven't been able to do phone ins, and have been stuck in TC9 at TVC.
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russnet Founding member
Personally speaking, I have preferred this series over the last one. Granted studio space is at a preminum but for jokes and light hearted banter then this series has to be it. They seemed to have raided the props cupboard a bit more too.

However more importantly, I see Caroline Flack is in FHM this month flashing her wares Razz

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