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fanoftv
Brekkie Boy posted:
Though it shouldn't matter, there is no doubt that unless Saturday morning kids TV returns to BBC1 it'll never be as important again as it was until recent years.


Although TMi (and any successor) should be longer than 90 minutes IMO, it could easily slot into BBC1 now at 9am, with Saturday Kitchen following at 10.30. It wouldn't be perfect - but it would be a start.


That's a very good point, why they took it off BBC One in the first place I don't know. As I mentioned in another thread, BBC shouldn't look towards ratings, it should be more for higher profile events (which I would count Saturday Morning kids TV as), and offer a good mixture, which I do believe that they offer, with too lifestyle rubbish in the day though.

The thing that I've never understood is that more people watch BBC One than BBC Two, I suppose it could have been said that in years gone by, your TV always came on to BBC One, though how did ITV have high ratings over these years?

Would it really benefit something to be on BBC One, or is it just to create a higher profile for a programme as I said earlier?
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JasonB
Will TMi come back in September? It deserves a third series considering the amount of people who have signed up to the website as mentioned in today's show.

Just a small question about TC9, the building behind where the forefits take place at the end of the show like Caroline getting gunged today, is that a prop's area?
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fanoftv
JasonB posted:
Will TMi come back in September? It deserves a third series considering the amount of people who have signed up to the website as mentioned in today's show.

Just a small question about TC9, the building behind where the forefits take place at the end of the show like Caroline getting gunged today, is that a prop's area?


It does deserve a third series, as I said I'd move it into a bigger studio, and bring back the dreaded 'C' word, but it has been fantastic.
I'm not sure I'm a fan of all of the gunge, the forfeits last series were better, but they can't go really go into leicester square can they?

I think that if the BBC actually put money, a longer slot (again) and the right channel into TMi, they'd be amazed at what would happen, it could become as big as SM:TV Live was in its heyday.
They don't seem to realise how big Sam & Mark are (they may well be the next Ant & Dec), and how fantastic the chemistry is between the three of them on TMi.

If it doesn't get a third series, maybe ITV could see sense and take the show to their network, then again wild deranged horses could storm Buckingham Palace and take over as rulers of this land!
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JasonB
The TMi lab bit where they created the monster of the week reminded me of a certain character from another saturday morning show. Laughing

I hope phone in competitons return soon to TMi before the series finishes in December (has that been confirmed?) Loot Machine was a favourite of mine from last year.

TMi does need to have longer running time but saying that has anyone noticed an increase in studio time in the last few weeks with programmes getting a bit shorter?
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russnet Founding member
[quote="JasonB]TMi does need to have longer running time but saying that has anyone noticed an increase in studio time in the last few weeks with programmes getting a bit shorter?[/quote]

There's been no difference in studio time from the first programme of this series to the current one. All programmes have two parts of Headz and two parts of TWF. As been mentioned before, whilst the programme is 30 minutes less than the last series. In this series there is less additional seperate programming minutes within the show.
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fanoftv
russnet posted:
JasonB posted:
TMi does need to have longer running time but saying that has anyone noticed an increase in studio time in the last few weeks with programmes getting a bit shorter?

There's been no difference in studio time from the first programme of this series to the current one. All programmes have two parts of Headz and two parts of TWF. As been mentioned before, whilst the programme is 30 minutes less than the last series. In this series there is less additional seperate programming minutes within the show.


I was flicking through channels and came across the secret show now on early in the afternoon on BBC One, it just reminded me of TMi.
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JasonB
Does anyone know who wrote the new theme for SMart and is it downloadable? It Has a good beat to it. Are they live on Sunday mornings?

Saw last Wednesday's edition of SMart, the block windows in TC9 can be seen in some shots.
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Digiboy
JasonB posted:
Just a small question about TC9, the building behind where the forefits take place at the end of the show like Caroline getting gunged today, is that a prop's area?


It's the TV Centre kitchens...hence the noise of crashing trays sometimes when BBC Weather is in the garden Wink
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tvarksouthwest
fanoftv posted:
Brekkie Boy posted:
Though it shouldn't matter, there is no doubt that unless Saturday morning kids TV returns to BBC1 it'll never be as important again as it was until recent years.

Although TMi (and any successor) should be longer than 90 minutes IMO, it could easily slot into BBC1 now at 9am, with Saturday Kitchen following at 10.30. It wouldn't be perfect - but it would be a start.


That's a very good point, why they took it off BBC One in the first place I don't know. As I mentioned in another thread, BBC shouldn't look towards ratings, it should be more for higher profile events (which I would count Saturday Morning kids TV as), and offer a good mixture, which I do believe that they offer, with too lifestyle rubbish in the day though.

I have been saying this ever since it happened. If weekday CBBC is considered too important to move from BBC1 and its immediate future has been safeguarded, why not the same for Saturday mornings? Some of you may have seen my comment on Teletext that since the move to CBBC Saturday mornings had become "a cesspit of repeats and half-hearted effort" and that's exactly how it has become.

TMi - what exactly does that stand for, "Too Much Infantility"? It's absolutely shocking. And that "Hedz" thing, it panders to the cult of celebrity when the BBC ought to be offering its young audience more. What must Edward Barnes and Rosemary Gill be thinking when they see this? Or Noel Edmonds?
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russnet Founding member
tvarksouthwest posted:

TMi - what exactly does that stand for, "Too Much Infantility"? It's absolutely shocking. And that "Hedz" thing, it panders to the cult of celebrity when the BBC ought to be offering its young audience more. What must Edward Barnes and Rosemary Gill be thinking when they see this? Or Noel Edmonds?


Considering how much kids tv you watch, Simon. I would have thought that it would have been something you would know straight of the stop of your head.

Does it matter what producers of the 1970s think of a tv programme today. Times have changed, the audience has changed. As for Noel Edmonds, are you having a laugh? You moan about celebrity culture yet it was Swap Shop that offered the chance of viewers asking questions to the stars.

I admit, I watch TMi. Partly to keep up the tradition of watching Saturday Morning TV as a child. Obviously a child will get more out of it than me but it offers 90 minutes of light relief entertainment thats not too taxing for a Saturday morning and whats the harm in that?
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tvarksouthwest
Your "times have changed" argument is becoming increasingly tiresome and surely you must have realised by now you're getting nowhere with it.

And since you remain full of assumptions, have you considered that I may not have, and didn't, deliberately make a point of sitting through an entire episode of TMi but may have instead made my judgements on the short segments I caught while changing channels? After what I DID see I would recommend root canal therapy as a suitable substitute.

There is a difference in the type of celebrity as featured in programmes like Hedz and those which would appear on Swap Shop. Yes, both would feature the pop stars of the day but that's where it stops with modern programmes - indeed TMi's first faux pas was on the very first show where a Big Brother reject was deemed to pass as a "celebrity guest". On Swap Shop you would get actors the calibre of Penelope Keith, the controller of BBC1, and even (in later incarnations) the Prime Minister! The idols balanced with genuinely "interesting" people.
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russnet Founding member
tvarksouthwest posted:
Your "times have changed" argument is becoming increasingly tiresome even if true russ. Sometimes better to admit defeat, eh?


Depends on who is admitting defeat here?

OK lets use your it was so much better in the days of Swap Shop approach....

Over the years when it morphed into Saturday Superstore, Going Live etc. It was roughly the same show but tweaked in certain areas. The days of Live and Kicking was still showing particular strength in the format notably as there was lack of competition by ITV but as the 90s went on, there was strains showing in the format and that by the end 90s, the kids watching it were going elsewhere, namely over to SMTV were you could see that was more fun to be had.

Consequently whilst the mirth of SMTV was being played out, I remember one morning that Live and Kicking were showing a child playing in a brass band. Now for entertainment value to the masses, you can see why people were opting to SMTV at the time and as time went back, the ratings dropped enough for the format to be dropped completely as surprisingly times had changed. The format of the 1970s was no longer viable in the late 90s, early 00s.

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