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tvmercia Founding member
nwtv2003 posted:
jrothwell97 posted:
Yes, but not everything shown during Class TV time was available on tape (except for extortionate amounts - when I had to order a copy of Panorama it cost me £35 for a single DVD!!) and teachers (not necessarily children) might be eager to get their hands on it.


One of my teachers at High School was in a Documentary that was shown on BBC North (Yorkshire) in the mid 1970's and for him to get that transferred to VHS it was about £50, and I don't even think it was half an hour either.

well there are costs involved - paying the person to research and locate the recording, the person's time in the transfer room and the fact that equipment in the transfer room will be occupied.

it would be odd if the the licence fee were to be put towards providing contributors and people who forgot to set their videos with individually dubbed copies posted out to them.

and the charges quoted on here are not dissimilar to what it costs internally to have archive material transferred.
JR
jrothwell97
tvmercia posted:
nwtv2003 posted:
jrothwell97 posted:
Yes, but not everything shown during Class TV time was available on tape (except for extortionate amounts - when I had to order a copy of Panorama it cost me £35 for a single DVD!!) and teachers (not necessarily children) might be eager to get their hands on it.


One of my teachers at High School was in a Documentary that was shown on BBC North (Yorkshire) in the mid 1970's and for him to get that transferred to VHS it was about £50, and I don't even think it was half an hour either.

well there are costs involved - paying the person to research and locate the recording, the person's time in the transfer room and the fact that equipment in the transfer room will be occupied.

it would be odd if the the licence fee were to be put towards providing contributors and people who forgot to set their videos with individually dubbed copies posted out to them.

and the charges quoted on here are not dissimilar to what it costs internally to have archive material transferred.


Shocked it costs that much?

Why didn't they transfer everything to the servers years ago?
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tvarksouthwest
jrothwell97 posted:
Why didn't they transfer everything to the servers years ago?

Broadcasters only seem to put things onto servers/digital tape formats etc. on an "as required" basis. A very good example of this is the Yorkshire TV children's drama Follyfoot which originally ran between 1971-73 and was shot entirely on 16mm - and the worst quality film stock at that.

Series 1 was recently released by Network DVD and what was plain for all to see was how the original film elements had decayed in storage since their last UK broadcast in 1988 - the colour had further faded and in one case the YTV endcap was damaged and a still frame had to be placed where it should have appeared. YTV could, and should, have transferred the film masters to VT back in 1988 but they didn't, and instead the film rushes were physically edited - often quite roughly - to fit the required time slots. I hope YTV are kicking themselves now.
ND
NorthDown2
jrothwell97 posted:
Jugalug posted:
Wasn't Class TV an hour or two's worth of stuff, then repeated?

Most kids don't like watching it anyway, not when there are other channels like Nickelodeon playing cartoons.


But it allowed teachers to get another chance to tape that edition of Look and Read from some specific date, and then show it to their class.

It's a shame Class TV has gone.


Yes, sad. No termly timetables (allegedly so that 'paper is saved'), can't get anyone from planning to send me out the excel file listing programmes. Absolutely no idea when anything is on. For those who think the kids prefer Nick etc when sick, when the little darlings come back from being off, they can always tell me the endings of programmes before I've shown them as they've seen it on Class TV. It was a wonderful service for getting archive broadcasts that otherwise couldn't be recorded and of which recording services places for library boards only every seemed to hold old analogue VHS copies.
JB
JasonB
fanoftv posted:
I thought that they created a good show given the consequences.
The set was recreated quite well, especially how they used the circle stage, the screen and the lights around the screen, to create the illusion of the previous set when the screen was way behind.

As for features, the new games were good, the only problem is that it would be better with the old phone in games.

The shortened show is the major problem, it's over too quickly, and I don't understand why they've done it, surely they could have just fitted in the cartoons, etc. into TMi.

The graphics refresh is quite nice, making everything 3D, the only thing that I have against it is the fact that the blue screen link is a bit too long, the main titles are the weirder ones. They don't seem to mean anything now, just them standing infront of graphics, I know that they had to change as they're not in the flat anymore, but couldn't they have done something else?


Innuendo is back on Saturday mornings! While introducing Hedz: Mark: "I like Hedz" cue uneasy laughter from Sam and Caroline Laughing
SA
saturdaymorning
Class TV should come on from 7pm-6am.That way,the teachers can set it to record and you don't sacrifice any time for the channel.Do they still end at 7 and have a looped video from 6?
JR
jrothwell97
saturdaymorning posted:
Class TV should come on from 7pm-6am.That way,the teachers can set it to record and you don't sacrifice any time for the channel.Do they still end at 7 and have a looped video from 6?


From 7pm the frequency's occupied by BBC3.
MA
The Master
jrothwell97 posted:
saturdaymorning posted:
Class TV should come on from 7pm-6am.That way,the teachers can set it to record and you don't sacrifice any time for the channel.Do they still end at 7 and have a looped video from 6?


From 7pm the frequency's occupied by BBC3.


When will they end at 9pm?
DB
dbl
The Master posted:
jrothwell97 posted:
saturdaymorning posted:
Class TV should come on from 7pm-6am.That way,the teachers can set it to record and you don't sacrifice any time for the channel.Do they still end at 7 and have a looped video from 6?


From 7pm the frequency's occupied by BBC3.


When will they end at 9pm?

We don't know it hasn't been announced yet.
LS
LaSeandre
saturdaymorning posted:
Do they still end at 7 and have a looped video from 6?

I think they have it from earlier than that now, a couple of days ago I was up at about 5.30 and it was showing.
NG
noggin Founding member
jrothwell97 posted:

Why didn't they transfer everything to the servers years ago?


Servers are only used to hold material for short-to-medium lengths of time.

An uncompressed broadcast quality recording will take approx 75Gigabytes per hour at 720x576 4:2:2 quality. Storing every programme recording made over the last 40 years or so on servers at high quality would still be impractical.

The current BBC archiving system is based around uncompressed data transfer to a system that can be stored on a mixture of server and data tapes, in parallel with transfer to current broadcast digital VT format Digital Betacam (which uses around 2:1 compression) for use in current editing areas.
JC
JC2
Is SMart now live? Or has the series been pre-recorded?

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